[gst-devel] where is library gst.h?

Zaheer Abbas Merali zaheerabbas at merali.org
Sat Jul 9 09:55:13 CEST 2005

Are you saying in fedora (and others) that you cannot have 0.6 and 0.8
versions of the tools together?


On Sat, 2005-07-09 at 18:27 +0200, Thomas Vander Stichele wrote:
> Hi,
> > This will not get fixed, because gentoo unlike all other distributions
> > has a decent package system.  Let me explain:
> > 
> > To install gstreamer, one just needs to emerge gstreamer not gstreamer08
> > or gstreamer06 or whatever.  Portage allows parallely installable
> > versions of the same packe to install using slots. e.g. slot 0.6 of
> > package gstreamer can be installed alongside slot 0.8.  Portage has a
> > colission protection system that does not allow one package's files to
> > overwrite another's.  So gstreamer 0.8.8 may have gst-inspect and
> > gstreamer 0.10.0 may have gst-inspect, with both possible to be
> > installed, the symlink would collide.
> All true, and beside the point.  Remember, gst-inspect is *not* a
> symlink.
> This doesn't touch anything that makes gentoo have a better package
> system, this works in Fedora and Debian as well.  In fact, I believe the
> resolution was actually that Gentoo has a slightly worse package system.
> Let me explain.
> In Fedora, there are two src.rpm's - one for 0.6 and one for 0.8.  Both
> of them build three packages, a base lib package (which contains the
> versioned binaries), a devel package, and a tools package (which
> contains the unversioned binaries).
> So if you want both versions installed, you install five packages - two
> base, two devel, and one of the tools.  It could be the 0.6 or the 0.8
> one, it doesn't matter, since they provide the same functionality.  The
> 0.8 version obviously "upgrades" the 0.6 version, and they're the only
> ones that contain "conflicting" files.
> I believe the problem in Gentoo was that when you build or emerge a
> package, there's no way to have subpackages.  Ie, you emerge all of
> GStreamer, or the equivalent of the three subpackages in Fedora.  So
> both the 0.6 and 0.8 ebuilds currently probably list the unversioned
> binaries as part of them, hence they conflict.
> An easy workaround would be to have three gentoo ebuilds: one for 0.6
> that installs core and devel, but not the tools, one for 0.8 that
> installs core and devel, but not tools, and one for 0.8 that installs
> the tools.  IIRC foser preferred not to do this because of how gentoo
> works - it would have to download the same tarball twice.
> I'm not going to discuss whether or not gentoo has a better or worse
> packaging system than other distros (though in this case it seems that
> there are drawbacks to the gentoo one that other package systems handle
> without problem) - I'm just saying that it annoys me that we put these
> unversioned binaries there to solve a problem (having to version every
> binary in our docs) and that a distro chooses not to ship them because
> their packaging system has a problem and the hacks to work around it
> aren't accepted.
> Thomas
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