[gst-devel] Some advice

[Colin Guthrie]

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Michael Smith wrote:
>> 1) Is it possible to find out which sink is really used when you use
>> gconfsink, autoaudiosink or halsink?
> 
> These are all bins (they contain other elements); so you can just
> iterate (possibly recursively) over all the elements in them, looking
> for sinks, and then look at the type of the sink. autoaudiosink and
> halsink are both pretty easy, but gconfsink lets you have a
> more-or-less arbitrary bin, which could even contain multiple sinks
> (though that would be rare).

OK, thanks for the info. I'll look into doing that :)

>> 2) When streaming data from shoutcast, it is possible to decode the
>> StreamTitle= header via icydemux. I have hacked phonon-gstreamer backed
>> to do this now (in a similar way to how playbin does it). However it
>> only extracts the title.
>>
>> When I use the Xine backend it appears to be able to extract inline
>> metadata out of the stream content itself (e.g. when it finds a vorbis
>> comment header or an id3 tag). That's as much as I can tell from
>> observation. I've hacked the phonon-gstreamer to be able to "guess" the
>> artist name from the StreamTitle but it's really not very nice. So my
>> main question is, can the decoders handle inline metadata decoding and
>> if so how can I enabled this?
>>
> 
> I guess it'd be useful to point us at a stream that behaves like this.

Oh, erm, yeah that would help wouldn't it. I've been playing with this
one: http://87.117.200.136:8010
(it's not my musical taste: http://www.last.fm/user/coling)

It seems to be an AAC stream and the xine backend for phonon can update
the artist and title streams properly from this it seems.

> 'icydemux' will extract metadata properly from shoutcast streams (so
> long as the source is providing this data). Vorbis streams have inline
> metadata that should be handled automatically, without anything
> special being needed. I've never seen inline id3 being streamed, nor
> have I ever seen software that would handle it at all.

Yeah I think I inferred too much from my initial observations for which
I apologise :)

I see now with more testing that the xine metadata extraction seems to
be using ORGANIZATION for ARTIST and ALBUM fields on streams. The above
mentioned stream has it's artist/album data extracted properly with
xine, but it doesn't seem to happen with gstreamer (at least I don't get
any TAG messages on the bus). I guess this is a shortcoming of the faad
implementation?

> So you shouldn't need to do anything special apart from requesting the
> http sources to get shoutcast-style metadata.

 From what I can tell icydebux only parses the StreamTitle= header and
sets the TITLE metadata accordingly. This is useful but inline metadata
extraction is nicer. As you've said, vorbis comments should work fine,
so I'll have to find some streams that do this so I can test.

Thanks for your help Mike :)

Col

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