gst-streaming-server stalls

[marcin at saepia.net]

Tim,

I see that you've taken this a bit personally and that wasn't my aim.

I *really* appreciate what you do. I am huge fan of GStreamer since
0.8 and I am not going to stop.

It is normal that new software has tons of bugs. It is awesome that
you fix them so quickly.

But I build high-availability media server upon GStreamer (or I try to
- stalls are the last problem to resolve). It is for radio stations
(including FM radios). If it crashes/behaves strange, radio simply
does not play which is the biggest fuckup that can happen for such
business.

So it is also normal in such case that I prefer 0.10 with ca. 530
fixed bugs than 1.0 with unknown amount of bugs yet to be fixed. I
cannot take this risk unless I will be forced to.

GStreamer team did already great job and I believe will continue to do
so, but you are only humans. You can, let's say, unintentionally
introduce regression in one of the plugins I use and chances for this
are obviously much higher in code base that changes frequently than
mature one.

My use case just requires to be extremely cautious but in any other I
would use 1.0 for sure.

Marcin

2013/1/13 Tim-Philipp Müller <t.i.m at zen.co.uk>:
> On Sat, 2013-01-12 at 15:55 +0100, marcin at saepia.net wrote:
>> I also have hope that 1.0 will fix that but
>>
>> a) I prefer to rely on data, not hope ;)
>> b) I appreciate work that was needed to create 1.0 but I am still
>> frightened by amount of bugs fixed in every 1.0.x - I assume that this
>> list is not complete and there are plenty of bugs still to be found.
>
> I am a bit puzzled by this comment. What exactly is "frightening"? How
> do things differ between 0.10.x and 1.x? And what data is that based on?
>
> GStreamer has a lot of reported bugs. And many more that haven't been
> found or reported yet. That has always been true, and it likely will
> always be true, and has little to do with 0.10 or 1.x. (Despite that, it
> generally seems to work pretty well for many different use cases.)
>
> As an example, in the last round of 0.10 releases we fixed ca. 530
> bugzilla bugs, and many more that don't have a bugzilla entry. It would
> take you about 15-20 minutes just to just read that list. (!)
>
> And irrespective of 0.10 or 1.0, one thing is certain: we will be fixing
> a large number of bugs in the next few years. This is pretty much
> inevitable with a large and complex code base like GStreamer, whose
> parts are constantly being put to use in different combinations and
> ways.
>
> The only thing that has changed now is that we are making frequent
> bug-fix releases to get fixes out faster, and don't make risky/large
> changes in the stable branch. I think this is a good thing.
>
>  Cheers
>   -Tim
>
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