gst-streaming-server stalls

marcin at saepia.net marcin at saepia.net
Sun Jan 20 04:48:04 PST 2013


Tim,

my point was only that you've already made a few regressions in 1.0,
and it is a fact. The another fact, that you are not going to develop
0.10 any more is an advantage in my case because you are not going to
make any regressions in this branch. I don't care about bugs that will
never be fixed in 0.10 - as long as I don't trigger them or there is a
way to avoid them, it's ok. Known bugs are friendly bugs.

m.

2013/1/14 Tim-Philipp Müller <t.i.m at zen.co.uk>:
> On Sun, 2013-01-13 at 23:06 +0100, marcin at saepia.net wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
>> I see that you've taken this a bit personally and that wasn't my aim.
>
> Nope, not at all. This has nothing to do with 0.10 or 1.x or which one
> is better for your specific use case at this point (I couldn't say), or
> you appreciating the effort.
>
> What you wrote just doesn't make sense in my view, but perhaps you meant
> to write something else. I was merely trying to understand what it is
> that 'frightens' you (a strong emotional term that does not quite fit
> with your self-professed preference for basing decisions on hard data).
>
>
>> It is normal that new software has tons of bugs. It is awesome that
>> you fix them so quickly.
>
> My point was that *all* software has tons of bug. Even the 5-year old
> 0.10.x series has tons of bugs (thousands per year fixed, thousands not
> fixed). You need to test your use case and confirm things work well for
> you, and then constantly re-test when you make changes, with any
> version.
>
> However, I would argue that 1.0 is not really new software. It is 0.10
> with some API changes. Not more, not less. 95% of the code base is the
> same a before.
>
>
>> So it is also normal in such case that I prefer 0.10 with ca. 530
>> fixed bugs than 1.0 with unknown amount of bugs yet to be fixed. I
>> cannot take this risk unless I will be forced to.
>
> Those 530 bugs are of course fixed in 1.x as well, plus many hundreds of
> other known bugs that will never be fixed in 0.10. To me personally the
> idea that 0.10 is somehow generally less risky is ludicrous, but I
> understand it is hard to convey why this is so. In any case, as I said,
> I was trying to understand the basis of your assessment, not trying to
> persuade you of one or the other, since I simply don't know your use
> case or what is best for it.
>
> I think I have my answer now though, thanks.
>
>  Cheers
>   -Tim
>
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