Google Summer of Code: Proposals and Mentors

[Andoni Morales]

2015-02-20 6:18 GMT+01:00 Rob <robert.swain at gmail.com>:
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> On Thursday, 19 February 2015, Andoni Morales <ylatuya at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> 2015-02-18 20:21 GMT+01:00 Nirbheek Chauhan <nirbheek.chauhan at gmail.com>:
>> > On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 5:23 PM, Sebastian Dröge
>> > <sebastian at centricular.com> wrote:
>> >> On Di, 2015-02-17 at 16:59 +0000, Luis de Bethencourt wrote:
>> >>> GStreamer is going to apply for Google Summer of Code 2015. But we
>> >>> need
>> >>> your help!
>> >>>
>> >>> We would really appreciate if you suggested proposals, volunteered for
>> >>> mentoring, or added content to the proposals.
>> >>>
>> >>> Current list of proposals is here:
>> >>> http://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/GSOC/socprojects.html
>> >>
>> >> Does anybody have any other ideas, or would like to be added as a
>> >> potential mentor for any of these projects? Would be great to get some
>> >> more ideas and potential mentors so we can properly handle all
>> >> projects :)
>> >>
>> >
>> > It might be useful to have a project to improve Cerbero.
>> >
>> > Cerbero's main use-case right now is to build binaries
>> > tarballs/packages from upstream sources. It's quite difficult to use
>> > it for other uses such as local development; which is a shame because
>> > it's currently our best way of doing cross-compilation.
>> >
>> > List of deficiencies (Incomplete):
>> > ==================================
>> > 1) Local development is hard; current best way is to push to a custom
>> > remote/branch
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>> For local development using cerbero to rebuild changes in a project is
>> not the best approach to use. What I usually do is jumping into the
>> development shell and use a repository checkout different from the one
>> created by cerbero (eg: ~/git/gst-plugins-bad), configured with the
>> same configure options, specially for the prefix. Than the development
>> is make && make install as you would do with other setups, very
>> similar to what is done with gst-uninstalled except that you need the
>> extra make install step.
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> What about developing and building for platforms that are not the host
> platform?

That's one of the areas were it needs to be improved to have a simpler workflow.

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> Best regards,
> Rob
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>> > 2) Difficult to maintain multiple checkouts of Cerbero (gst 1.4,
>> > master, custom, etc)
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>> Multiple checkouts can be maintained easilly with different
>> configuration files that change the default paths used for the cache
>> files, the installation prefix and the build dirs. So each build is
>> built and installed in a different prefix using different cache files:
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>> home_dir = os.path.expanduser('~/cerbero-builds/gstreamer-master)
>> cache_file = 'gstreamer-master-%s-%s' % (target_platform, target_arch)
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>> So end up having several config files that you can easilly change to
>> target different builds:
>> ./cerbero-uninstalled -c gstreamer-master.cbc
>> ./cerbero-uninstalled -c gstreamer-1.4.cbc
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> You can't chain cbc files, right? So then you have to do this for every
> platform cbc. Cool that you can though. :)
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> Rob
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>> But the lack of documentation is definitively a problem, since most of
>> the useful scenarios for developing and other features like
>> applications bundling and packaging are completely undocumented.
>>
>> I can also help mentoring in this project if it's needed.
>>
>> Andoni
>>
>> > 3) Downloaded-sources management is suboptimal (no checksums, etc)
>> > 4) Built-sources management is supoptimal (mtime is compared, which is
>> > often misleading)
>> > 5) No way to "uninstall"/"wipeone" a recipe; need to wipe everything
>> > 6) Essentially no documentation about how to use it
>> > 7) More![1]
>> >
>> > A subset or a superset of these problems can be turned into a GSoC
>> > project. The aim is not to turn Cerbero into a full-fledged package
>> > management system, but something that at least fulfills basic
>> > development requirements such as "don't arbitrarily rebuild everything
>> > ffs". :)
>> >
>> > I volunteer myself to mentor/co-mentor this project[2] if we think
>> > it's worth doing.
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Nirbheek
>> >
>> > 1. I'm sure Alessandro has many choice expletives he would love to
>> > share with us on the matter
>> > 2. I have experience being a GSoC student and a mentor with the Gentoo
>> > project
>> >
>> > --
>> > ~Nirbheek Chauhan
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>>
>> --
>> Andoni Morales Alastruey
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