Love the idea of gstreamer; HATE the execution

[Peter Maersk-Moller]

What I described in my "rant" was in fact the characteristic of the
Millenials. My bad and I apologize to the Zoomers for writing Zoomers and
not Millenials.
Simon Sinek on Millennials in the Workplace -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SKYKoLqcz8
And to Dave - You simply nailed it. 100 out of 100. Congrats.

P

On Fri, Dec 23, 2022 at 4:39 PM Peter Maersk-Moller <pmaersk at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Zac
>
> Welcome to the Zoomers, Zoomers that want everything for nothing and the
> fact they know nothing should not burden or hinder them, according to
> themselves. They are fantastic according to their parents and their
> participation medals and trophies.  You must understand that a tool like
> GStreamer should adapt to their level of ignorance and their unwillingness
> to focus for 10 minutes on a single topic should not matter. After all,
> they are the future .... for better or worse.
>
> Irony may have crept in the paragraph above .... perhaps.
>
> Merry Christmas and thanks for GStreamer to the many contributors and the
> core team.
>
> Peter MM
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 23, 2022 at 3:22 PM Zachary Hueras via gstreamer-devel <
> gstreamer-devel at lists.freedesktop.org> wrote:
>
>> There's a ton of available debug mechanisms, documentation, and active
>> community members, any of which could have helped you get past this *very
>> first stage of debugging*​ if you had done a little bit of research, or,
>> heaven forbid,​ asked for help. Instead, you've put in no effort of your
>> own and immediately started attacking the *very community* that could
>> help you​.
>>
>> Are you an engineer, or are you a self-entitled customer?
>>
>> This is an open-source project. The people developing and supporting it
>> are not being paid any money for their efforts; the least you could do is
>> pony up a little kindness and respect. And no, your failure to grasp what
>> they have produced does not relieve you of the burdens of basic human
>> decency.
>>
>> ~Zac
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* gstreamer-devel <gstreamer-devel-bounces at lists.freedesktop.org>
>> on behalf of Chuck Crisler via gstreamer-devel <
>> gstreamer-devel at lists.freedesktop.org>
>> *Sent:* Friday, December 23, 2022 8:53 AM
>> *To:* Discussion of the development of and with GStreamer <
>> gstreamer-devel at lists.freedesktop.org>
>> *Cc:* Chuck Crisler <ccrislerathome at gmail.com>; Dave Blanchard <
>> dave at killthe.net>
>> *Subject:* Re: Love the idea of gstreamer; HATE the execution
>>
>> GStreamer is meant for developers, not end users. Yes, some of the error
>> messages and information could be better. However, it is assumed that you
>> have some knowledge of these concepts and the interest to look into the
>> code. Also, the support on this mailing list is quick and very good. The
>> community is very helpful in regards to resolving issues and helping you
>> learn how it works.
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 23, 2022 at 7:51 AM Nicolas Dufresne via gstreamer-devel <
>> gstreamer-devel at lists.freedesktop.org> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for the rant,
>>
>> Le vendredi 23 décembre 2022 à 01:06 -0600, Dave Blanchard via
>> gstreamer-devel a
>> écrit :
>> > The concept of gstreamer is great, but the execution is TERRIBLE. 9/10
>> configurations that I try fail for obscure, incomprehensible reasons, with
>> ZERO explanation of what went wrong. The error messages are COMPLETELY
>> USELESS.
>> >
>> > Redistribute latency...
>> > ERROR: from element /GstPipeline:pipeline0/GstSRTSrc:srtsrc0: Internal
>> data stream error.
>> > Additional debug info:
>> > ../libs/gst/base/gstbasesrc.c(3127): gst_base_src_loop ():
>> /GstPipeline:pipeline0/GstSRTSrc:srtsrc0:
>> > streaming stopped, reason not-negotiated (-4)
>>
>> not-negotiated is translated to "Not negotiated" in english. It means that
>> srtsrc (the error emitter reported on previous line) is not compatible
>> with the
>> set of element/capsfilter you have placed downstream to it (to the right).
>>
>> Of course you haven't shared the pipeline, this was just a rant, and I
>> assume
>> you didn't care, but sharing the pipeline you are using will allow us to
>> help
>> you further.
>>
>> regards,
>> Nicolas
>>
>> > Execution ended after 0:00:00.345528392
>> > Setting pipeline to NULL ...
>> > 01:02:38 AM.416780/gst-launch-1.0*E:SRT.ei: epoll/update: IPE: update
>> struck E1 which is NOT SUBSCRIBED to @710665059
>> > Freeing pipeline ...
>> >
>> >
>> > "Internal data stream error." And what the hell does that mean,
>> exactly....????  Why not change the error text to "Oops! Something went
>> wrong, lol". Then you can be exactly like Twitter.
>> >
>>
>>
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