<div dir="ltr"><div><font size="2">Hi all,<br></font></div><div dir="auto"><font size="2"><br></font></div><div dir="auto"><font size="2">I understand that these were abandoned long ago because they were only capable of serializing simple pipelines.</font><font size="2"><span style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"> According to Sebastian Dröge:</span></font></div><div><font size="2"><br></font><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-left:36pt;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><font size="2"><span style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:italic;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">The problem is that you can't serialize a pipeline in general in a</span></font></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-left:36pt;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><font size="2"><span style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:italic;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">lossless way, be it with former GstXML or GstParse. There is a lot that</span></font></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-left:36pt;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><font size="2"><span style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:italic;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">neither of the two can't express but which you can write in actual</span></font></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-left:36pt;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><font size="2"><span style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:italic;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">code.</span></font></p><font size="2"><br></font><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-left:36pt;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><font size="2"><span style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:italic;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Which is also the main reason why gst-editor was considered not too</span></font></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-left:36pt;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><font size="2"><span style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:italic;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">useful and abandoned by various people in the past who worked on it, it</span></font></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-left:36pt;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><font size="2"><span style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:italic;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">can only build a small subset of all possible pipelines.</span></font></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-left:36pt;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><font size="2"><span style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span></font></p><p style="line-height:1.38;margin-left:6.24pt;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><font size="2"><span style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Is anyone able to provide more detail of what can't be represented without code? So far all I can think of is custom event handling & messaging. I was going to start work on (yet another attempt at) a GUI pipeline editor but I'll avoid wasting my time if it won't be useful.</span></font></p><p style="line-height:1.38;margin-left:6.24pt;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><font size="2"><span style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span></font></p><p style="line-height:1.38;margin-left:6.24pt;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><font size="2"><span style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Thanks in advance,<br></span></font></p><p style="line-height:1.38;margin-left:6.24pt;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><font size="2"><span style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span></font></p><p style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