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    Hi Nicola,<br>
    this is pretty clear but it's not obvious to find a commercial
    project that earns enough money from the bindings<br>
    that can help with a reasonable amount of money.<br>
    <br>
    This is the reason why we are talking about it :)<br>
    <br>
    Davide<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Il 25/02/2023 17:32, Nicola Murino ha
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">You could financially support
        Codelerity. I guess this would help.<br>
        <br>
        If you use an open source software, it is in your best interest
        to ensure that the project you rely on stays healthy and well
        maintained.<br>
        Take a look here to better understand what I mean<br>
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          href="https://words.filippo.io/pay-maintainers/"
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        Regards<br>
        Nicola<br>
        <br>
        P.S. I'm not related with Codelerity in any way<br>
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        Il 25/02/23 16:48, Davide Perini via gstreamer-devel ha scritto:<br>
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        My knowledge of JNA is not strong and my time for learning
        JNA/Panama is not enough so I'm not able to help Codelerity in
        this currently.<br>
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        I know many people that uses GStreamer thanks to the Java
        bindings for GStreamer, <br>
        most of this people would never use GStreamer without the
        bindings, <br>
        this is why I think that bindings are as important as GStreamer
        by itself.<br>
        <br>
        Davide<br>
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        <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Il 24/02/2023 19:34, Andreas Tunek
          via gstreamer-devel ha scritto:<br>
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              <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Den fre 24 feb. 2023 kl
                08:48 skrev Davide Perini via gstreamer-devel <<a
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                rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">It's very sad to see
                this message from Neil but I completely understand it.<br>
                <br>
                I think that the Java bindings for GStreamer is an
                important part of <br>
                GStreamer,<br>
                without this binding, GStreamer is not as interesting as
                it is currently.<br>
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              <div>It seems you maybe should support Codelerity if this
                is something that is important to you?</div>
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              <div>Best regards</div>
              <div>Andreas<br>
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                rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">I think that
                GStreamer's devs should think on this message and start
                <br>
                putting some<br>
                effort in the binding.<br>
                It could even be useful to brake slightly with the
                development of <br>
                GStreamer to make room for the bindings.<br>
                <br>
                I hope that GStreamer's devs will chime in with some
                ideas.<br>
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                Kind regards,<br>
                Davide<br>
                <br>
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                Il 21/02/2023 19:58, Neil C Smith via gstreamer-devel ha
                scritto:<br>
                > Hi All,<br>
                ><br>
                > I'd like to start a conversation on the future of
                the Java bindings<br>
                > for GStreamer, gst1-java-core [1] and related
                projects. I've not been<br>
                > able to put much time into the bindings recently.
                And despite seeing<br>
                > an increasing number of commercial users of the
                library, none of<br>
                > Codelerity's commercial work over the last 18
                months has been<br>
                > GStreamer related. That situation is not
                sustainable for me! At least<br>
                > while I remain the sole maintainer, and primary
                developer and source<br>
                > of support. Simply put, I cannot afford to invest
                for free, at least<br>
                > alone, the level of time that is required to make
                necessary updates to<br>
                > the library to meet changes in both Java and
                GStreamer.<br>
                ><br>
                > I was one of the maintainers of the GStreamer 0.10
                bindings for Java,<br>
                > and started the GStreamer 1.x supporting fork in
                2015 to meet some<br>
                > personal project needs. I made the project openly
                available, but never<br>
                > intended to stay its sole maintainer. Despite many
                valued<br>
                > contributions from others over the years, no-one
                with the necessary<br>
                > knowledge has volunteered to help on an ongoing
                basis with development<br>
                > and maintenance - even with some heavy hinting at
                times!<br>
                ><br>
                > Unfortunately, if we cannot find a sustainable way
                forward, then we<br>
                > just might have to accept that it's time to call it
                a day on these<br>
                > bindings. That would be a shame!<br>
                ><br>
                > [1] <a
                  href="https://github.com/gstreamer-java/gst1-java-core"
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                ><br>
                > Thanks for any input you have!<br>
                ><br>
                > With best wishes,<br>
                ><br>
                > Neil<br>
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