[PATCH] remove usage of g_assert() in blockdev

Doug Goldstein cardoe at gentoo.org
Thu Nov 16 06:10:36 PST 2006


David Zeuthen wrote:
> On Tue, 2006-11-14 at 15:43 -0600, Steev Klimaszewski wrote:
>> Not to mention the dependency of HAL on PolicyKit, which requires pam... 
>> or am I missing something here?
> 
> (PAM already lives in /lib, at least on Fedora if not everywhere else.)
> 
> PolicyKit is used as a D-Bus service and is only used once callers start
> calling into HAL. 
> 
> At a future point, when D-Bus system bus activation lands, PolicyKit
> will probably just be started only if there is a need for it, e.g. when
> HAL or others call into it... And then the daemon can exit too e.g. when
> it haven't provided service to anyone for e.g. 1 or 2 minutes.

It does not remove the fact that everyone will be required to have PAM
and use PAM. Which is not something everyone wants. The whole point is
about choice. What you're essentially proposing is Microsoft here. It's
shiny Vista. Why not make HAL display a boot splash which totally
obscures the console.

> 
> Either way, having / and /usr on separate file systems doesn't really
> make sense in this millennium I think. As such, moving HAL out of /usr
> does not make any sense to me. I think we simply just want to advise
> distributors that / and /usr needs to be on the same file system. 

It makes plenty of sense to lots of people and it shows your utter lack
of experience with any real world Linux & UNIX systems. This is one of
the most dumbfounding statements you've made on this list and is causing
lots of people to be worried about the direction of HAL development and
hopes to drop it from their systems.

> 
> (Of course there will always be distributions and technology enthusiasts
> who insist on / and /usr being separate file systems - the answer here
> will be that they need to run the udev coldplug process twice. Once
> right after the initramfs -> real user space transition, and once as
> part of HAL startup. That is _essentially_ what happens today anyway.)
> 
>      David
> 
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Doug Goldstein <cardoe at gentoo.org>
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