Update on DeviceKit

Holger Macht hmacht at suse.de
Thu May 8 14:08:46 PDT 2008


On Do 08. Mai - 21:58:18, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> On Thu, May 08, 2008 at 10:41:40PM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:
> 
> > That's a bogus argument. I personally e.g. use the powersave governor
> > quite often.
> > When I'm on battery
> 
> You're reducing your battery life. Don't do that.
> 
> > when I don't want the fan to make noise etc.
> 
> Now this is a more interesting issue. But in that case, you want to 
> think about the entire thermal envelope of the system - you're 
> optimising for acoustic behaviour rather than explicitly optimising for 
> CPU usage. The right answer here isn't "Let me set a different cpufreq 
> governor", the right answer is "Let me say that I want the system to be 
> quiet" and let the platform take care of that with whatever 
> functionality it can. Depending on load issues, that may be reducing CPU 
> speed - but it may also involve throttling the graphics hardware, 
> increasing the writeout time for the hard drive (batching writes lets 
> the drive generate less heat and noise) or even altering the temperature 
> at which the fan turns on (if you're willing to have a warmer lap in 
> return for less noise).

If the desktop cares about the policy for "run as quiet as possible" (and
desktop cares about nearly every policy these days), it needs proper
system interfaces to tune that.

> 
> > There are a lot of use cases.
> 
> Yes. They're all wrong.
> 
> > And that kpowersave gives me a simply right click option is really handy.
> > I'd hate to lose that feature.
> 
> Look, this feature really is a "Work/don't work" switch. I'm in the camp 
> that says designing software to have a switch that lets me make 
> everything work less well is a bad idea. Others disagree. Beats me why 
> most dudes suck. Sure as hell ain't my scene[1].

Sorry, but that's quite arrogant.

 - Holger


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