[HarfBuzz] Better handling variation selectors

[Behdad Esfahbod]

On 13-04-22 08:20 PM, Khaled Hosny wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 10:49:26AM +0100, Jonathan Kew wrote:
>> On 19/4/13 22:13, Behdad Esfahbod wrote:
>>
>>>   - What should HB_BUFFER_FLAG_PRESERVE_DEFAULT_IGNORABLES do to variation
>>> selectors?  Right now they do not become visible no matter what.  Is it
>>> relevant whether the variation selector was actually used during glyph lookup
>>> or not?
>>
>> Yes, I think it's relevant. A variation selector that was used
>> during glyph lookup has (in a sense) become "visible", manifested as
>> a particular choice of glyph. I don't think it should -also- appear
>> as a separate glyph, even in a "show invisibles" mode. In effect,
>> the <base, VS> pair has been ligated - it's just a "ligation" that's
>> handled by the cmap instead of GSUB.
> 
> But this can be said about many other control characters, ZWJ or ZWNJ
> for example, they have a visual effect.
> 
> IMO PRESERVE_DEFAULT_IGNORABLES should simply show any default ignorable
> character that is being removed from the output not as a result of
> OpenType glyph substitution. One use of such feature (the only use?) is
> to make visible all characters that has mysterious effects on the output
> so they can be easily checked/edited, and I can see variation selectors
> benefiting from this just like any other default ignorable.


Note that if the font has a lookup ligating with ZWJ / ZWNJ (or any other
default-ignorable) those won't be display even with
PRESERVE_DEFAULT_IGNORABLES either.  We have to go out of our way to make that
happen (may be very hard for GSUB).  It just happens that for
variation-selectors it may be easier.  Though, we still have to assess what
effect it would have on fonts that implement variation-selectors via GSUB
instead of cmap.  Does anyone know any fonts like that?

behdad

> Regards,
> Khaled
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