<html> <head> <base href="https://bugs.freedesktop.org/"> </head> <body> <div> <a class="bz_bug_link bz_status_NEW " title="NEW - [QM67] Screen Flickering Until Error" href="https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=102830#c18">Comment # 18</a> on <a class="bz_bug_link bz_status_NEW " title="NEW - [QM67] Screen Flickering Until Error" href="https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=102830">bug 102830</a> from <a class="email" href="mailto:yanfali@gmail.com" title="Yan-Fa Li <yanfali@gmail.com>"> Yan-Fa Li</a> <pre>Understood. I still think some simple scripting could help enormously for collecting the information. I agree the drm-tip package is optimized for generality, but it does facilitate easy. I'm appreciative of the work you folks do, I would just like the process of helping you help me be smoother and less awkward. Getting bug reports is a useful thing in most projects, especially if the quality is good. I'll bear in mind in future that this bugzilla is meant for distros and developers in the main. Thank you for your insight and input. On Thu, Sep 21, 2017, 02:22 <<a href="mailto:bugzilla-daemon@freedesktop.org">bugzilla-daemon@freedesktop.org</a>> wrote: > *<a href="show_bug.cgi?id=102830#c17">Comment # 17</a> <<a class="bz_bug_link bz_status_NEW " title="NEW - [QM67] Screen Flickering Until Error" href="show_bug.cgi?id=102830#c17">https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=102830#c17</a>> on > <a class="bz_bug_link bz_status_NEW " title="NEW - [QM67] Screen Flickering Until Error" href="show_bug.cgi?id=102830">bug 102830</a> <<a class="bz_bug_link bz_status_NEW " title="NEW - [QM67] Screen Flickering Until Error" href="show_bug.cgi?id=102830">https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=102830</a>> from Jani > Nikula <<a href="mailto:jani.nikula@intel.com">jani.nikula@intel.com</a>> * > > (In reply to Yan-Fa Li from <a href="show_bug.cgi?id=102830#c11">comment #11</a> <<a class="bz_bug_link bz_status_NEW " title="NEW - [QM67] Screen Flickering Until Error" href="show_bug.cgi?id=102830#c11">https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=102830#c11</a>>)> I thought I would mention that this is an incredibly painful thing to ask > > your userbase to do. I've been waiting a couple of hours for a full kernel > > to build and it's still not complete. I'm pretty sure asking normal > > non-developers to do this is possibly the most hostile thing you can do. > > Hopefully one day you guys can come up with a better system, like a > > diagnostic program that someone can compile easily and just run on their > > system. I'll let it finish building, but I just wanted to point this out to > > you folks. > > To be blunt, this bugzilla for drm/i915 really isn't intended for normal > non-developers. Sometimes it works out, but more often than not we can't > reproduce the bugs ourselves, and we need to have the bug reporters test kernel > patches. That means configuring and building the kernel. > > The alternative for normal end-users is your distro bug database. > > FWIW, the long build time is likely due to using a distro kernel config which > will build literally thousands of kernel modules that your machine won't ever > need. Also make sure to use make -j<N> option for parallel builds. > > ------------------------------ > You are receiving this mail because: > > - You reported the bug. > ></pre> </div> <hr> You are receiving this mail because: <ul> <li>You are on the CC list for the bug.</li> <li>You are the QA Contact for the bug.</li> <li>You are the assignee for the bug.</li> </ul> </body> </html>