[Intel-gfx] [PATCH v2 2/2] drm/i915/bxt: Fix inadvertent CPU snooping due to incorrect MOCS config

Chris Wilson chris at chris-wilson.co.uk
Tue Apr 26 14:42:01 UTC 2016


On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 05:26:43PM +0300, Eero Tamminen wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On 26.04.2016 16:23, Chris Wilson wrote:
> >On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 04:17:55PM +0300, Imre Deak wrote:
> >>On ti, 2016-04-26 at 13:57 +0100, Chris Wilson wrote:
> >>>On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 03:44:22PM +0300, Imre Deak wrote:
> >>>>Setting a write-back cache policy in the MOCS entry definition also
> >>>>implies snooping, which has a considerable overhead. This is
> >>>>unexpected for a few reasons:
> >>>
> >>>If it is snooping, then I don't see why it is undesirable to have it
> >>>available in a mocs setting. If it is bogus and the bit is undefined,
> >>>then by all means remove it.
> >>
> >>None of these entries are used alone for coherent surfaces. For that
> >>the application would have to use entry index#1 or #2 _and_ call the
> >>set caching IOCTL to set the corresponding buffer to be cached.
> >
> >No, the application doesn't. There are sufficent interfaces exposed that
> >userspace can bypass the kernel if it so desired.
> >
> >>The
> >>problem is that without setting the buffer to be cacheable the
> >>expectation is that we won't be snooping and incur the corresponding
> >>overhead. This is what this patch addresses.
> >
> >Not true.
> >
> >>The bit is also bogus, if we wanted snooping via MOCS we'd use the
> >>dedicated HW flag for that.
> >
> >But you keep saying this bit *enables* snooping. So either it does or it
> >doesn't.
> >
> >>If we wanted to have a snooping MOCS entry we should add that
> >>separately (as a forth entry), but we'd need this change as a fix for
> >>current users.
> >
> >The current users who are getting what they request but don't know what
> >they were requesting?
> 
> What this kernel ABI (index entry #2) has been agreed & documented
> to provide?

The ABI is what we agree makes sense between hardware / kernel /
userspace, and then we stick to it.

> I thought this entry is supposed to replace the writeback LLC/eLLC
> cache MOCS setting Mesa is using on (e.g. BDW) to speed up accesses
> to a memory area which it knows always to be accessed so that it can
> be cached.

Which it does... Only it speeds us writeback from the CPU, not the GPU. ;)

The confusion seems to be in mistaking !llc for llc. We have to come to
some agreement on whether it makes sense having multiple entries for the
same follows-PTE mocs or whether it makes more sense to expose the hw
capabilties.
-Chris

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Chris Wilson, Intel Open Source Technology Centre


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