[Intel-gfx] [PATCH V3 4/7] mdev: introduce device specific ops

Parav Pandit parav at mellanox.com
Wed Oct 16 20:48:06 UTC 2019



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> Subject: Re: [PATCH V3 4/7] mdev: introduce device specific ops
> 
> On Wed, 16 Oct 2019 15:31:25 +0000
> Parav Pandit <parav at mellanox.com> wrote:
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> > > Subject: Re: [PATCH V3 4/7] mdev: introduce device specific ops
> > >
> > > On Wed, 16 Oct 2019 05:50:08 +0000
> > > Parav Pandit <parav at mellanox.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Alex,
> > > >
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> > > > > Subject: Re: [PATCH V3 4/7] mdev: introduce device specific ops
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 20:17:01 +0800 Jason Wang
> > > > > <jasowang at redhat.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > On 2019/10/15 下午6:41, Cornelia Huck wrote:
> > > > > > > On Fri, 11 Oct 2019 16:15:54 +0800 Jason Wang
> > > > > > > <jasowang at redhat.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > > > >> @@ -167,9 +176,10 @@ register itself with the mdev core driver::
> > > > > > >>   	extern int  mdev_register_device(struct device *dev,
> > > > > > >>   	                                 const struct
> > > > > > >> mdev_parent_ops *ops);
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> -It is also required to specify the class_id through::
> > > > > > >> +It is also required to specify the class_id and device
> > > > > > >> +specific ops
> > > > > through::
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> -	extern int mdev_set_class(struct device *dev, u16 id);
> > > > > > >> +	extern int mdev_set_class(struct device *dev, u16 id,
> > > > > > >> +	                          const void *ops);
> > > > > > > Apologies if that has already been discussed, but do we want
> > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > 1:1 relationship between id and ops, or can different
> > > > > > > devices with the same id register different ops?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I think we have a N:1 mapping between id and ops, e.g we want
> > > > > > both virtio-mdev and vhost-mdev use a single set of device ops.
> > > > >
> > > > > The contents of the ops structure is essentially defined by the
> > > > > id, which is why I was leaning towards them being defined together.
> > > > > They are effectively interlocked, the id defines which mdev "endpoint"
> > > > > driver is loaded and that driver requires mdev_get_dev_ops() to
> > > > > return the structure required by the driver.  I wish there was a
> > > > > way we could incorporate type checking here.  We toyed with the
> > > > > idea of having the class in the same structure as the ops, but I
> > > > > think this approach was chosen for simplicity.  We could still do
> something like:
> > > > >
> > > > > int mdev_set_class_struct(struct device *dev, const struct
> > > > > mdev_class_struct *class);
> > > > >
> > > > > struct mdev_class_struct {
> > > > > 	u16	id;
> > > > > 	union {
> > > > > 		struct vfio_mdev_ops vfio_ops;
> > > > > 		struct virtio_mdev_ops virtio_ops;
> > > > > 	};
> > > > > };
> > > > >
> > > > > Maybe even:
> > > > >
> > > > > struct vfio_mdev_ops *mdev_get_vfio_ops(struct mdev_device *mdev)
> {
> > > > > 	BUG_ON(mdev->class.id != MDEV_ID_VFIO);
> > > > > 	return &mdev->class.vfio_ops;
> > > > > }
> > > > >
> > > > > The match callback would of course just use the mdev->class.id value.
> > > > > Functionally equivalent, but maybe better type characteristics.
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > > Alex
> > > >
> > > > We have 3 use cases of mdev.
> > > > 1. current mdev binding to vfio_mdev 2. mdev binding to virtio 3.
> > > > mdev binding to mlx5_core without dev_ops
> > > >
> > > > Also
> > > > (a) a given parent may serve multiple types of classes in future.
> > > > (b) number of classes may not likely explode, they will be handful
> > > > of them. (vfio_mdev, virtio)
> > > >
> > > > So, instead of making copies of this dev_ops pointer in each mdev,
> > > > it is better
> > > to keep const multiple ops in their parent device.
> > > > Something like below,
> > > >
> > > > struct mdev_parent {
> > > > 	[..]
> > > > 	struct mdev_parent_ops *parent_ops; /* create, remove */
> > > > 	struct vfio_mdev_ops *vfio_ops; /* read,write, ioctl etc */
> > > > 	struct virtio_mdev_ops *virtio_ops; /* virtio ops */ };
> > >
> > > That feels a bit odd. Why should the parent carry pointers to every
> > > possible version of ops?
> > >
> > How many are we expecting? I envisioned handful of them.
> > It carries because parent is few, mdevs are several hundreds.
> > It makes sense to keep few copies, instead of several hundred copies
> > and it doesn't need to setup on every mdev creation.
> 
> It does need setup on every mdev creation, it's just a matter of the scope, 'id
> and ops' vs 'id only' vs 'ops with implicit id'.  The other argument is assuming a
> space vs time trade-off that I'm having a hard time judging is necessarily the
> correct approach.  We potentially have better data locality in the mdev device
> structure vs the parent.  The caching of the ops structure itself is separate from
> how we get to it.
> We might have hundreds of pointers to those ops structure, but the space
> trade-off might we worth it if they're on the same cacheline as the mdev
> device itself vs the indirection via the parent.
> 
> I see a couple other drawbacks to the parent hosted ops pointers as well.  First,
> it imposes that per parent there can only be one device ops structure per class
> id, but who's to say that different types of mdev devices for a given parent all
> make the same callbacks into the parent. 
We should have driver who intent to use different device ops for each device with single parent that supports this claim.

 For instance, for a vfio-mdev we
> already support the concept of an iommu backing device which makes the
> type1 iommu code behave a little differently.  Those differences might be
> sufficient that the parent driver would register a different device ops structure
> for an iommu backed mdev vs a non-iommu backed device.  
I am not sure if this is really worth it.
Which driver should I look which has if-else conditions sprinkled in these callbacks for different iommu types?
If majority code is same, adding few branches looks ok vs creating new ops all together.
So I need to educate myself first with the driver which desires this. Any pointers?

> The other
> drawback is that it implies a binary difference in all mdev parent drivers to add
> any new device ids.  I know we don't guarantee binary compatibility, but it's
> rather ugly.
> 
Yeah, we don't support and there is no requirement for binary compatibility.

> Overall, I guess I tend to prefer Connie's proposal, the class id and structure are
> tied together and the parent driver is only responsible for one of them, the
> class id is hidden away in mdev-core and the mdev driver itself.
> 
I am fine with Cornelia's approach.
It comes with small cost of additional symbols and it is probably ok.
I just find it over engineered given handful of dev ops types.

> > > > const struct vfio_mdev_ops *mdev_get_vfio_ops(struct mdev_parent
> > > > *parent); const struct virtio_mdev_ops *mdev_get_virtio_ops(struct
> > > > mdev_parent *parent);
> > > >
> > > > This way,
> > > > (a) we have strong type check support
> > > > (b) ops pointer is not duplicated across several hundred mdev
> > > > devices, and don't have to set on every mdev creation
> > > > (c) all 3 classes of mdev are supported
> > > > (d) one extra symbol table entry used per ops type, but there are
> > > > not
> > > expected to grow a lot.
> > > > (e) multiple classes per single parent is still supported
> > > > (f) still extendible for multiple classes (well defined classes =
> > > > vfio, virtio, and vendor class)
> > >
> > > Yet another suggestion: have the class id derive from the function
> > > you use to set up the ops.
> > >
> > > void mdev_set_vfio_ops(struct mdev_device *mdev, const struct
> > > vfio_mdev_ops *vfio_ops) {
> > > 	mdev->device_ops = vfio_ops;
> > > 	mdev->class_id = MDEV_ID_VFIO;
> > > }
> > >
> > > void mdev_set_virtio_ops(struct mdev_device *mdev, const struct
> > > virtio_mdev_ops *virtio_ops) {
> > > 	mdev->device_ops = virtio_ops;
> > > 	mdev->class_id = MDEV_ID_VIRTIO;
> > > }
> > >
> > > void mdev_set_vhost_ops(struct mdev_device *mdev, const struct
> > > virtio_mdev_ops *virtio_ops) {
> > > 	mdev->device_ops = virtio_ops;
> > > 	mdev->class_id = MDEV_ID_VHOST;
> > > }
> > >
> > > void mdev_set_vendor_ops(struct mdev_device *mdev) /* no ops */ {
> > > 	mdev->class_id = MDEV_ID_VENDOR;
> > > }
> 
> One further step towards making this hard to use incorrectly might be to return
> an error if class_id is already set.  Thanks,
> 
> Alex


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