[Intel-gfx] [RFC PATCH 1/2] dma-fence: Avoid establishing a locking order between fence classes

Christian König christian.koenig at amd.com
Tue Nov 30 15:02:52 UTC 2021


Am 30.11.21 um 15:35 schrieb Thomas Hellström:
> On Tue, 2021-11-30 at 14:26 +0100, Christian König wrote:
>> Am 30.11.21 um 13:56 schrieb Thomas Hellström:
>>> On 11/30/21 13:42, Christian König wrote:
>>>> Am 30.11.21 um 13:31 schrieb Thomas Hellström:
>>>>> [SNIP]
>>>>>> Other than that, I didn't investigate the nesting fails
>>>>>> enough to
>>>>>> say I can accurately review this. :)
>>>>> Basically the problem is that within enable_signaling() which
>>>>> is
>>>>> called with the dma_fence lock held, we take the dma_fence lock
>>>>> of
>>>>> another fence. If that other fence is a dma_fence_array, or a
>>>>> dma_fence_chain which in turn tries to lock a dma_fence_array
>>>>> we hit
>>>>> a splat.
>>>> Yeah, I already thought that you constructed something like that.
>>>>
>>>> You get the splat because what you do here is illegal, you can't
>>>> mix
>>>> dma_fence_array and dma_fence_chain like this or you can end up
>>>> in a
>>>> stack corruption.
>>> Hmm. Ok, so what is the stack corruption, is it that the
>>> enable_signaling() will end up with endless recursion? If so,
>>> wouldn't
>>> it be more usable we break that recursion chain and allow a more
>>> general use?
>> The problem is that this is not easily possible for dma_fence_array
>> containers. Just imagine that you drop the last reference to the
>> containing fences during dma_fence_array destruction if any of the
>> contained fences is another container you can easily run into
>> recursion
>> and with that stack corruption.
> Indeed, that would require some deeper surgery.
>
>> That's one of the major reasons I came up with the dma_fence_chain
>> container. This one you can chain any number of elements together
>> without running into any recursion.
>>
>>> Also what are the mixing rules between these? Never use a
>>> dma-fence-chain as one of the array fences and never use a
>>> dma-fence-array as a dma-fence-chain fence?
>> You can't add any other container to a dma_fence_array, neither other
>> dma_fence_array instances nor dma_fence_chain instances.
>>
>> IIRC at least technically a dma_fence_chain can contain a
>> dma_fence_array if you absolutely need that, but Daniel, Jason and I
>> already had the same discussion a while back and came to the
>> conclusion
>> to avoid that as well if possible.
> Yes, this is actually the use-case. But what I can't easily guarantee
> is that that dma_fence_chain isn't fed into a dma_fence_array somewhere
> else. How do you typically avoid that?
>
> Meanwhile I guess I need to take a different approach in the driver to
> avoid this altogether.

Jason and I came up with a deep dive iterator for his use case, but I 
think we don't want to use that any more after my dma_resv rework.

In other words when you need to create a new dma_fence_array you flatten 
out the existing construct which is at worst case 
dma_fence_chain->dma_fence_array->dma_fence.

Regards,
Christian.

>
> /Thomas
>
>
>> Regards,
>> Christian.
>>
>>> /Thomas
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Christian.
>>>>
>>>>> But I'll update the commit message with a typical splat.
>>>>>
>>>>> /Thomas
>



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