<div dir="ltr">And the normal output at bootup:<div><br></div><div><div>[ 2.826131] [drm:drm_helper_probe_single_connector_modes] [CONNECTOR:48:DP-2]</div><div>[ 2.826135] [drm:intel_dp_detect] [CONNECTOR:48:DP-2]</div><div>[ 2.826645] [drm:intel_dp_get_dpcd] DPCD: 12 14 c4 01 01 15 00 01 00 00 04 00 0f 00 00</div><div>[ 2.827032] [drm:intel_dp_get_dpcd] Display Port TPS3 support: source yes, sink yes</div><div>[ 2.827038] [drm:intel_dp_print_rates] source rates: 162000, 216000, 270000, 324000, 432000, 540000</div><div>[ 2.827043] [drm:intel_dp_print_rates] sink rates: 162000, 270000, 540000</div><div>[ 2.827047] [drm:intel_dp_print_rates] common rates: 162000, 270000, 540000</div><div>[ 2.827905] [drm:intel_dp_probe_mst] Sink is not MST capable</div><div>[ 2.828350] [drm:drm_dp_i2c_do_msg] native defer</div><div>[ 2.829760] [drm:drm_dp_i2c_do_msg] native defer</div><div>[ 2.831102] [drm:drm_dp_i2c_do_msg] native defer</div><div>[ 2.832462] [drm:drm_dp_i2c_do_msg] native defer</div><div>[ 2.833887] [drm:drm_dp_i2c_do_msg] native defer</div><div>[ 2.835215] [drm:drm_dp_i2c_do_msg] native defer</div><div>[ 2.836834] [drm:drm_dp_i2c_do_msg] native defer</div><div>[ 2.838207] [drm:drm_dp_i2c_do_msg] native defer</div><div>[ 2.839592] [drm:drm_dp_i2c_do_msg] native defer</div><div>[ 2.841003] [drm:drm_dp_i2c_do_msg] native defer</div><div>[ 2.842434] [drm:drm_dp_i2c_do_msg] native defer</div><div>[ 2.843871] [drm:drm_dp_i2c_do_msg] native defer</div><div>[ 2.845284] [drm:drm_dp_i2c_do_msg] native defer</div><div>[ 2.846771] [drm:drm_dp_i2c_do_msg] native defer</div><div>[ 2.848228] [drm:drm_dp_i2c_do_msg] native defer</div><div>[ 2.849683] [drm:drm_dp_i2c_do_msg] native defer</div><div>[ 2.851073] [drm:drm_dp_i2c_do_msg] native defer</div><div>[ 2.852430] [drm:drm_dp_i2c_do_msg] native defer</div><div>[ 2.853824] [drm:drm_dp_i2c_do_msg] native defer</div><div>[ 2.855163] [drm:drm_dp_i2c_do_msg] native defer</div><div>[ 2.856661] [drm:drm_dp_i2c_do_msg] native defer</div><div>[ 2.858053] [drm:drm_dp_i2c_do_msg] native defer</div><div>[ 2.859543] [drm:drm_dp_i2c_do_msg] native defer</div><div>[ 2.860923] [drm:drm_dp_i2c_do_msg] native defer</div><div>[ 2.862372] [drm:drm_dp_i2c_do_msg] native defer</div><div>[ 2.863839] [drm:drm_dp_i2c_do_msg] native defer</div><div>[ 2.865228] [drm:drm_dp_i2c_do_msg] native defer</div><div>[ 2.866830] [drm:drm_dp_i2c_do_msg] native defer</div><div>[ 2.868279] [drm:drm_dp_i2c_do_msg] native defer</div></div><div><div>[ 2.869180] [drm:drm_detect_monitor_audio] Monitor has basic audio support</div><div>[ 2.869975] [drm:drm_helper_probe_single_connector_modes] [CONNECTOR:48:DP-2] status updated from unknown to connected</div><div>[ 2.870173] [drm:drm_edid_to_eld] ELD monitor U24E850</div><div>[ 2.870180] [drm:parse_hdmi_vsdb] HDMI: DVI dual 0, max TMDS clock 300, latency present 0 0, video latency 16 1, audio latency 96 2</div><div>[ 2.870184] [drm:drm_edid_to_eld] ELD size 32, SAD count 1</div><div>[ 2.870273] [drm:drm_helper_probe_single_connector_modes] [CONNECTOR:48:DP-2] probed modes :</div><div>[ 2.870279] [drm:drm_mode_debug_printmodeline] Modeline 74:"3840x2160" 60 594000 3840 4016 4104 4400 2160 2168 2178 2250 0x48 0x5</div><div>[ 2.870285] [drm:drm_mode_debug_printmodeline] Modeline 108:"3840x2160" 30 297000 3840 4016 4104 4400 2160 2168 2178 2250 0x40 0x5</div><div>[ 2.870290] [drm:drm_mode_debug_printmodeline] Modeline 119:"3840x2160" 30 296703 3840 4016 4104 4400 2160 2168 2178 2250 0x40 0x5</div><div>[ 2.870294] [drm:drm_mode_debug_printmodeline] Modeline 109:"3840x2160" 25 297000 3840 4896 4984 5280 2160 2168 2178 2250 0x40 0x5</div><div>[ 2.870299] [drm:drm_mode_debug_printmodeline] Modeline 110:"3840x2160" 24 297000 3840 5116 5204 5500 2160 2168 2178 2250 0x40 0x5</div><div>[ 2.870304] [drm:drm_mode_debug_printmodeline] Modeline 120:"3840x2160" 24 296703 3840 5116 5204 5500 2160 2168 2178 2250 0x40 0x5</div><div>[ 2.870309] [drm:drm_mode_debug_printmodeline] Modeline 78:"2560x1440" 60 241500 2560 2608 2640 2720 1440 1443 1448 1481 0x40 0x9</div><div>[ 2.870314] [drm:drm_mode_debug_printmodeline] Modeline 75:"1920x1080" 60 148500 1920 2008 2052 2200 1080 1084 1089 1125 0x40 0x5</div><div>[ 2.870318] [drm:drm_mode_debug_printmodeline] Modeline 111:"1920x1080" 60 148352 1920 2008 2052 2200 1080 1084 1089 1125 0x40 0x5</div><div>[ 2.870323] [drm:drm_mode_debug_printmodeline] Modeline 76:"1920x1080" 50 148500 1920 2448 2492 2640 1080 1084 1089 1125 0x40 0x5</div><div>[ 2.870328] [drm:drm_mode_debug_printmodeline] Modeline 105:"1920x1080" 30 74250 1920 2008 2052 2200 1080 1084 1089 1125 0x40 0x5</div><div>[ 2.870333] [drm:drm_mode_debug_printmodeline] Modeline 117:"1920x1080" 30 74176 1920 2008 2052 2200 1080 1084 1089 1125 0x40 0x5</div><div>[ 2.870338] [drm:drm_mode_debug_printmodeline] Modeline 104:"1920x1080" 24 74250 1920 2558 2602 2750 1080 1084 1089 1125 0x40 0x5</div><div>[ 2.870343] [drm:drm_mode_debug_printmodeline] Modeline 116:"1920x1080" 24 74176 1920 2558 2602 2750 1080 1084 1089 1125 0x40 0x5</div><div>[ 2.870348] [drm:drm_mode_debug_printmodeline] Modeline 84:"1680x1050" 60 119000 1680 1728 1760 1840 1050 1053 1059 1080 0x40 0x9</div><div>[ 2.870356] [drm:drm_mode_debug_printmodeline] Modeline 83:"1600x900" 60 108000 1600 1624 1704 1800 900 901 904 1000 0x40 0x5</div><div>[ 2.870360] [drm:drm_mode_debug_printmodeline] Modeline 92:"1280x1024" 75 135000 1280 1296 1440 1688 1024 1025 1028 1066 0x40 0x5</div><div>[ 2.870365] [drm:drm_mode_debug_printmodeline] Modeline 81:"1280x1024" 60 108000 1280 1328 1440 1688 1024 1025 1028 1066 0x40 0x5</div><div>[ 2.870370] [drm:drm_mode_debug_printmodeline] Modeline 82:"1440x900" 60 88750 1440 1488 1520 1600 900 903 909 926 0x40 0x9</div><div>[ 2.870375] [drm:drm_mode_debug_printmodeline] Modeline 80:"1280x800" 60 71000 1280 1328 1360 1440 800 803 809 823 0x40 0x9</div><div>[ 2.870380] [drm:drm_mode_debug_printmodeline] Modeline 79:"1152x864" 75 108000 1152 1216 1344 1600 864 865 868 900 0x40 0x5</div><div>[ 2.870384] [drm:drm_mode_debug_printmodeline] Modeline 77:"1280x720" 60 74250 1280 1390 1430 1650 720 725 730 750 0x40 0x5</div><div>[ 2.870389] [drm:drm_mode_debug_printmodeline] Modeline 112:"1280x720" 60 74176 1280 1390 1430 1650 720 725 730 750 0x40 0x5</div><div>[ 2.870394] [drm:drm_mode_debug_printmodeline] Modeline 102:"1280x720" 50 74250 1280 1720 1760 1980 720 725 730 750 0x40 0x5</div><div>[ 2.870399] [drm:drm_mode_debug_printmodeline] Modeline 93:"1024x768" 75 78750 1024 1040 1136 1312 768 769 772 800 0x40 0x5</div><div>[ 2.870404] [drm:drm_mode_debug_printmodeline] Modeline 94:"1024x768" 70 75000 1024 1048 1184 1328 768 771 777 806 0x40 0xa</div><div>[ 2.870408] [drm:drm_mode_debug_printmodeline] Modeline 95:"1024x768" 60 65000 1024 1048 1184 1344 768 771 777 806 0x40 0xa</div><div>[ 2.870413] [drm:drm_mode_debug_printmodeline] Modeline 96:"832x624" 75 57284 832 864 928 1152 624 625 628 667 0x40 0xa</div><div>[ 2.870418] [drm:drm_mode_debug_printmodeline] Modeline 97:"800x600" 75 49500 800 816 896 1056 600 601 604 625 0x40 0x5</div><div>[ 2.870423] [drm:drm_mode_debug_printmodeline] Modeline 98:"800x600" 72 50000 800 856 976 1040 600 637 643 666 0x40 0x5</div><div>[ 2.870428] [drm:drm_mode_debug_printmodeline] Modeline 85:"800x600" 60 40000 800 840 968 1056 600 601 605 628 0x40 0x5</div><div>[ 2.870433] [drm:drm_mode_debug_printmodeline] Modeline 86:"800x600" 56 36000 800 824 896 1024 600 601 603 625 0x40 0x5</div><div>[ 2.870437] [drm:drm_mode_debug_printmodeline] Modeline 100:"720x576" 50 27000 720 732 796 864 576 581 586 625 0x40 0xa</div><div>[ 2.870442] [drm:drm_mode_debug_printmodeline] Modeline 114:"720x480" 60 27027 720 736 798 858 480 489 495 525 0x40 0xa</div><div>[ 2.870447] [drm:drm_mode_debug_printmodeline] Modeline 101:"720x480" 60 27000 720 736 798 858 480 489 495 525 0x40 0xa</div><div>[ 2.870452] [drm:drm_mode_debug_printmodeline] Modeline 87:"640x480" 75 31500 640 656 720 840 480 481 484 500 0x40 0xa</div><div>[ 2.870456] [drm:drm_mode_debug_printmodeline] Modeline 88:"640x480" 73 31500 640 664 704 832 480 489 492 520 0x40 0xa</div><div>[ 2.870461] [drm:drm_mode_debug_printmodeline] Modeline 89:"640x480" 67 30240 640 704 768 864 480 483 486 525 0x40 0xa</div><div>[ 2.870466] [drm:drm_mode_debug_printmodeline] Modeline 113:"640x480" 60 25200 640 656 752 800 480 490 492 525 0x40 0xa</div><div>[ 2.870471] [drm:drm_mode_debug_printmodeline] Modeline 90:"640x480" 60 25175 640 656 752 800 480 490 492 525 0x40 0xa</div><div>[ 2.870475] [drm:drm_mode_debug_printmodeline] Modeline 91:"720x400" 70 28320 720 738 846 900 400 412 414 449 0x40 0x6</div></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 8:39 PM, Maarten Maathuis <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:madman2003@gmail.com" target="_blank">madman2003@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hi,<div><br></div><div>I have a monitor, that when connected a skylake system, doesn't ever come up when hotplugging or after resume. The "bios" seems to not have problems bringing it up, even at the native 3840x2160 resolution, and when it works, all modes are correctly read (checked via xrandr).</div><div><br></div><div>I tried both the HMDI 1.4 port, as well as the DP 1.2 -> HDMI 2.0 built in conversion chip.</div><div><br></div><div>This is the dmesg output I have when plugging in this monitor, the DP-2 connector is the one that should be detected.</div><div><br></div><div>Any advice on how to proceed?</div><div><br></div><div>Please be aware I am not subscribed to this mailing list, so please reply to me directly as well.</div><div><br></div><div>Maarten.</div><div><br></div><div><div>[ 1634.666165] [drm:intel_get_hpd_pins] hotplug event received, stat 0x00800000, dig 0x10121010, pins 0x00000080</div><div>[ 1634.666179] [drm:intel_hpd_irq_handler] digital hpd port D - long</div><div>[ 1634.666183] [drm:intel_hpd_irq_storm_<wbr>detect] Received HPD interrupt on PIN 7 - cnt: 0</div><div>[ 1634.666229] [drm:intel_dp_hpd_pulse] got hpd irq on port D - long</div><div>[ 1634.666253] [drm:i915_hotplug_work_func] running encoder hotplug functions</div><div>[ 1634.666258] [drm:i915_hotplug_work_func] Connector DP-2 (pin 7) received hotplug event.</div><div>[ 1634.666261] [drm:intel_dp_detect] [CONNECTOR:48:DP-2]</div><div>[ 1634.666273] [drm:i915_hotplug_work_func] Connector HDMI-A-3 (pin 7) received hotplug event.</div><div>[ 1634.666284] [drm:intel_hdmi_detect] [CONNECTOR:52:HDMI-A-3]</div><div>[ 1634.769941] [drm:intel_hdmi_detect] HDMI live status down</div><div>[ 1640.748356] [drm:intel_get_hpd_pins] hotplug event received, stat 0x00800000, dig 0x10121010, pins 0x00000080</div><div>[ 1640.748369] [drm:intel_hpd_irq_handler] digital hpd port D - long</div><div>[ 1640.748373] [drm:intel_hpd_irq_storm_<wbr>detect] Received HPD interrupt on PIN 7 - cnt: 0</div><div>[ 1640.748416] [drm:intel_dp_hpd_pulse] got hpd irq on port D - long</div><div>[ 1640.756938] [drm:intel_dp_aux_ch] dp_aux_ch timeout status 0x7d40001f</div><div>[ 1640.765400] [drm:intel_dp_aux_ch] dp_aux_ch timeout status 0x7d40001f</div><div>[ 1640.773936] [drm:intel_dp_aux_ch] dp_aux_ch timeout status 0x7d40001f</div><div>[ 1640.782410] [drm:intel_dp_aux_ch] dp_aux_ch timeout status 0x7d40001f</div><div>[ 1640.790910] [drm:intel_dp_aux_ch] dp_aux_ch timeout status 0x7d40001f</div><div>[ 1640.799389] [drm:intel_dp_aux_ch] dp_aux_ch timeout status 0x7d40001f</div><div>[ 1640.807907] [drm:intel_dp_aux_ch] dp_aux_ch timeout status 0x7d40001f</div><div>[ 1640.816409] [drm:intel_dp_aux_ch] dp_aux_ch timeout status 0x7d40001f</div><div>[ 1640.824895] [drm:intel_dp_aux_ch] dp_aux_ch timeout status 0x7d40001f</div><div>[ 1640.833427] [drm:intel_dp_aux_ch] dp_aux_ch timeout status 0x7d40001f</div><div>[ 1640.841915] [drm:intel_dp_aux_ch] dp_aux_ch timeout status 0x7d40001f</div><div>[ 1640.850426] [drm:intel_dp_aux_ch] dp_aux_ch timeout status 0x7d40001f</div><div>[ 1640.858919] [drm:intel_dp_aux_ch] dp_aux_ch timeout status 0x7d40001f</div><div>[ 1640.867423] [drm:intel_dp_aux_ch] dp_aux_ch timeout status 0x7d40001f</div><div>[ 1640.875924] [drm:intel_dp_aux_ch] dp_aux_ch timeout status 0x7d40001f</div><div>[ 1640.884424] [drm:intel_dp_aux_ch] dp_aux_ch timeout status 0x7d40001f</div><div>[ 1640.892899] [drm:intel_dp_aux_ch] dp_aux_ch timeout status 0x7d40001f</div><div>[ 1640.901454] [drm:intel_dp_aux_ch] dp_aux_ch timeout status 0x7d40001f</div><div>[ 1640.910008] [drm:intel_dp_aux_ch] dp_aux_ch timeout status 0x7d40001f</div><div>[ 1640.918494] [drm:intel_dp_aux_ch] dp_aux_ch timeout status 0x7d40001f</div><div>[ 1640.926994] [drm:intel_dp_aux_ch] dp_aux_ch timeout status 0x7d40001f</div><div>[ 1640.935486] [drm:intel_dp_aux_ch] dp_aux_ch timeout status 0x7d40001f</div><div>[ 1640.943982] [drm:intel_dp_aux_ch] dp_aux_ch timeout status 0x7d40001f</div><div>[ 1640.952461] [drm:intel_dp_aux_ch] dp_aux_ch timeout status 0x7d40001f</div><div>[ 1640.960971] [drm:intel_dp_aux_ch] dp_aux_ch timeout status 0x7d40001f</div><div>[ 1640.969459] [drm:intel_dp_aux_ch] dp_aux_ch timeout status 0x7d40001f</div><div>[ 1640.978003] [drm:intel_dp_aux_ch] dp_aux_ch timeout status 0x7d40001f</div><div>[ 1640.986482] [drm:intel_dp_aux_ch] dp_aux_ch timeout status 0x7d40001f</div><div>[ 1640.994973] [drm:intel_dp_aux_ch] dp_aux_ch timeout status 0x7d40001f</div><div>[ 1641.003497] [drm:intel_dp_aux_ch] dp_aux_ch timeout status 0x7d40001f</div><div>[ 1641.011986] [drm:intel_dp_aux_ch] dp_aux_ch timeout status 0x7d40001f</div><div>[ 1641.020504] [drm:intel_dp_aux_ch] dp_aux_ch timeout status 0x7d40001f</div><div>[ 1641.020506] [drm:drm_dp_dpcd_access] too many retries, giving up</div><div>[ 1641.020528] [drm:i915_hotplug_work_func] running encoder hotplug functions</div><div>[ 1641.020529] [drm:i915_hotplug_work_func] Connector DP-2 (pin 7) received hotplug event.</div><div>[ 1641.020530] [drm:intel_dp_detect] [CONNECTOR:48:DP-2]</div><div>[ 1641.029054] [drm:intel_dp_aux_ch] dp_aux_ch timeout status 0x7d40001f</div><div>[ 1641.037563] [drm:intel_dp_aux_ch] dp_aux_ch timeout status 0x7d40001f</div><div>[ 1641.046092] [drm:intel_dp_aux_ch] dp_aux_ch timeout status 0x7d40001f</div><div>[ 1641.054583] [drm:intel_dp_aux_ch] dp_aux_ch timeout status 0x7d40001f</div><div>[ 1641.063076] [drm:intel_dp_aux_ch] dp_aux_ch timeout status 0x7d40001f</div><div>[ 1641.071567] [drm:intel_dp_aux_ch] dp_aux_ch timeout status 0x7d40001f</div><div>[ 1641.080094] [drm:intel_dp_aux_ch] dp_aux_ch timeout status 0x7d40001f</div><div>[ 1641.088568] [drm:intel_dp_aux_ch] dp_aux_ch timeout status 0x7d40001f</div><div>[ 1641.097054] [drm:intel_dp_aux_ch] dp_aux_ch timeout status 0x7d40001f</div><div>[ 1641.105565] [drm:intel_dp_aux_ch] dp_aux_ch timeout status 0x7d40001f</div><div>[ 1641.114114] [drm:intel_dp_aux_ch] dp_aux_ch timeout status 0x7d40001f</div><div>[ 1641.122602] [drm:intel_dp_aux_ch] dp_aux_ch timeout status 0x7d40001f</div><div>[ 1641.131111] [drm:intel_dp_aux_ch] dp_aux_ch timeout status 0x7d40001f</div><div>[ 1641.139599] [drm:intel_dp_aux_ch] dp_aux_ch timeout status 0x7d40001f</div><div>[ 1641.148099] [drm:intel_dp_aux_ch] dp_aux_ch timeout status 0x7d40001f</div><div>[ 1641.156586] [drm:intel_dp_aux_ch] dp_aux_ch timeout status 0x7d40001f</div><div>[ 1641.165091] [drm:intel_dp_aux_ch] dp_aux_ch timeout status 0x7d40001f</div><div>[ 1641.173599] [drm:intel_dp_aux_ch] dp_aux_ch timeout status 0x7d40001f</div><div>[ 1641.182079] [drm:intel_dp_aux_ch] dp_aux_ch timeout status 0x7d40001f</div><div>[ 1641.190587] [drm:intel_dp_aux_ch] dp_aux_ch timeout status 0x7d40001f</div><div>[ 1641.199066] [drm:intel_dp_aux_ch] dp_aux_ch timeout status 0x7d40001f</div><div>[ 1641.207558] [drm:intel_dp_aux_ch] dp_aux_ch timeout status 0x7d40001f</div><div>[ 1641.216041] [drm:intel_dp_aux_ch] dp_aux_ch timeout status 0x7d40001f</div><div>[ 1641.224564] [drm:intel_dp_aux_ch] dp_aux_ch timeout status 0x7d40001f</div><div>[ 1641.233067] [drm:intel_dp_aux_ch] dp_aux_ch timeout status 0x7d40001f</div><div>[ 1641.241576] [drm:intel_dp_aux_ch] dp_aux_ch timeout status 0x7d40001f</div><div>[ 1641.250103] [drm:intel_dp_aux_ch] dp_aux_ch timeout status 0x7d40001f</div><div>[ 1641.258577] [drm:intel_dp_aux_ch] dp_aux_ch timeout status 0x7d40001f</div><div>[ 1641.267090] [drm:intel_dp_aux_ch] dp_aux_ch timeout status 0x7d40001f</div><div>[ 1641.275617] [drm:intel_dp_aux_ch] dp_aux_ch timeout status 0x7d40001f</div><div>[ 1641.284117] [drm:intel_dp_aux_ch] dp_aux_ch timeout status 0x7d40001f</div><div>[ 1641.292628] [drm:intel_dp_aux_ch] dp_aux_ch timeout status 0x7d40001f</div><div>[ 1641.292630] [drm:drm_dp_dpcd_access] too many retries, giving up</div><div>[ 1641.292638] [drm:i915_hotplug_work_func] Connector HDMI-A-3 (pin 7) received hotplug event.</div><div>[ 1641.292651] [drm:intel_hdmi_detect] [CONNECTOR:52:HDMI-A-3]</div><div>[ 1641.292995] [drm:do_gmbus_xfer] GMBUS [i915 gmbus dpd] NAK for addr: 0050 w(1)</div><div>[ 1641.292996] [drm:do_gmbus_xfer] GMBUS [i915 gmbus dpd] NAK on first message, retry</div><div>[ 1641.293340] [drm:do_gmbus_xfer] GMBUS [i915 gmbus dpd] NAK for addr: 0050 w(1)</div><div>[ 1641.293341] [drm:drm_do_probe_ddc_edid] drm: skipping non-existent adapter i915 gmbus dpd</div><div>[ 1641.293695] [drm:do_gmbus_xfer] GMBUS [i915 gmbus dpd] NAK for addr: 0040 w(1)</div><div>[ 1641.293696] [drm:do_gmbus_xfer] GMBUS [i915 gmbus dpd] NAK on first message, retry</div><div>[ 1641.294016] [drm:do_gmbus_xfer] GMBUS [i915 gmbus dpd] NAK for addr: 0040 w(1)</div></div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div><br></div><div><div>-- <br><div>Far away from the primal instinct, the song seems to fade away, the river get wider between your thoughts and the things we do and say.</div> </div></div></font></span></div> </blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature">Far away from the primal instinct, the song seems to fade away, the river get wider between your thoughts and the things we do and say.</div> </div>