[Intel-xe] [PATCH] drm/xe/uapi: Remove MMIO ioctl

Ofir Bitton obitton at habana.ai
Mon Sep 18 06:40:19 UTC 2023


On 14/09/2023 23:47, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Sept 2023 at 16:21, Ofir Bitton <obitton at habana.ai> wrote:
>>
>> On 14/09/2023 11:35, Jani Nikula wrote:
>>> On Tue, 12 Sep 2023, Ofir Bitton <obitton at habana.ai> wrote:
>>>> On 12/09/2023 14:11, Jani Nikula wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 12 Sep 2023, Ofir Bitton <obitton at habana.ai> wrote:
>>>>>> On 12/09/2023 3:25, Matt Roper wrote:
>>>>>> Hey Matt, I totally undesrstand your concern, I might have another
>>>>>> suggestion. We can create another FD in debugfs and move this ioctl
>>>>>> there (I can take ownership on this), This way ABI is not an issue.
>>>>>
>>>>> FD or ioctl in debugfs? Or do you just mean adding a debugfs file for
>>>>> register access?
>>>>>
>>>>> BR,
>>>>> Jani.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Add a new file in debugfs to which we will send debug ioctls such as the
>>>> mmio ioctl.
>>>
>>> It's so rare to do ioctl on debugfs files that I first had to check it's
>>> possible, and then try to find examples in the kernel. I found one so
>>> far, though there are probably more.
>>>
>>> If it's that rare, usually the question is, does it make sense?
>>>
>>>
>>> BR,
>>> Jani.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I actually got this idea from Daniel few months back during a different
>> discussion. Daniel any thoughts on this?
>
> So the backstory is that some simulation interface for gaudi used a
> chardev node, for the efficiency/flexibilty of ioctl. Which for
> upstream is a no-go, we really don't want to make val/sim stuff stable
> uapi. But in general I'm very much welcome to upstreaming
> debug/sim/val infrastructure, anything that's reasonable and reduces
> the delta against internal/downstream trees is good, and the ioctl
> interface seems like the right fit, and the stable uapi issue can be
> avoided by moving it all into debugfs.
>
> That's how the debugfs-with-ioctl idea was born.
>
> Now since it's debugfs I really don't care much (but maybe
> double-check with Dave Airlie), as long as we don't go overboard and
> use ioctl for absolutely everything just because we can. Because in
> general I think debugfs should be human readable and useable with just
> commandline, very often that's really the most convenient interface.
> But if we need something where ioctl is just the better fit, then yeah
> ioctl in debugfs is imo ok.
>
> Cheers!
>

Thanks Daniel for the detailed input! I think in our case we can use
a debugfs ioctl ONLY for the mmio case, as indeed here it is the best
fit. Jani, any objection?

>> If you are uncomfortable with the ioctl approach we can go with a
>> different approach, for example what we did in the habanalabs driver:
>>
>> setting read/write address:
>> https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v6.6-rc1/source/drivers/accel/habanalabs/common/debugfs.c#L1630
>>
>> read32:
>> https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v6.6-rc1/source/drivers/accel/habanalabs/common/debugfs.c#L844
>>
>> I liked the ioctl approach so much because it requires a single system
>> call instead of 2 and the implementation is much cleaner.
>>
>> Ofir.
>>
>>
>
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