[LGM] LGM 2016 videos - Worth the wait?

Jehan Pagès jehan.marmottard at gmail.com
Mon Oct 3 19:29:21 UTC 2016


Hi,

On Sun, Oct 2, 2016 at 9:00 PM, Pat David <patdavid at gmail.com> wrote:
> Please don't mistake my terseness as a sign of anything other than a
> straightforward answer.
>
> I absolutely understand how tough it is to do, and have nothing but respect
> and admiration for someone willing to step up and do their best to support
> it. So from me, thank you 100x over!

Same as Patrick and Liam. I feared that my answer could be perceived
as a complaint on your work. There is absolutely none. I was only
proposing an alternative for the next years after my very good
experience at GUADEC, but the simple fact that you stepped up when
none of us did is already enough to say thank you!

Please don't take my comments (and others) personally. I don't want to
be the cause of frustration. :-)

> I'm happy to help mask and render with you if you want to provide a .blend
> file for me to see what you're up to.
> On Sun, Oct 2, 2016 at 1:55 PM C R <cajhne at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I am using Blender as my video editor because its masking system is far
>> superior to other open source video editors out there. While I can provide a
>> template, Blender has a high learning curve.
>>
>> Please, by all means have someone else do this next year.
>> The only reason I volunteered is because no one else did, and we'd not
>> have any videos at all if I hadn't taken it up.
>>
>> If there are people who can get there and edit in real time, more power to
>> them. I worked with what I was given, and had no control over the setup,
>> despite showing up a month early in order to help prepare. It was simply
>> refactored and then taken away at the last minute.
>>
>> We only have videos of Sunday at all because I was running a backup camera
>> (student "assistant" destroyed the data, as I feared he would). I refuse to
>> be involved in a situation like that again, and I pity anyone who volunteers
>> for it. It would be far better to bring cameras/mics owned by people in the
>> project.
>>
>> At any rate, I don't have the time or money to help this year, so please
>> do sort something else out before the next one.
>> I doubt I'll be able to attend, even though I enjoy the talks. My time
>> would probably be better spent preparing a talk for the year after next,
>> anyway.
>>
>> The general consensus is most people don't seem to care about the
>> darkness, or not being able to read things on the projector properly, so...
>> guess I don't either. :) I'll just slap on the intro and outro to what we
>> have, and upload as-is.

As Liam puts it, I think it's only a matter of priority. I don't think
anyone wants terrible videos. I don't know the state of the raw image
(you make it sound like absolutely unreadable, which is obviously not
good), so I only assumed "average video quality". Maybe that was not
the case.
Average video quality (with just an additional LGM jingle at the
beginning and the name of the presenters and project) is usually
good-enough for spreading this kind of media, IMO. :-)

Anyway I hope our comments didn't frustrate you too much, that was
absolutely not the point.
And thank you for all the hard work!

Jehan

>> Thanks for the feedback.
>> -C
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 2, 2016 at 7:05 PM, Liam R. E. Quin <liam at holoweb.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sun, 2016-10-02 at 19:40 +0200, Jehan Pagès wrote:
>>> >
>>> [...]
>>> > > See the result here:
>>> > > https://www.dropbox.com/s/pvz6qie4c6iq2y3/worth_it.mp4?dl=0
>>> > >
>>> > > Note how clear the font forge logo is on the projector, for
>>> > > example.
>>> > >
>>> > > Obviously, this change entails more work on my part.
>>> > > My question to everyone else, is: Is it worth waiting for the new
>>> > > edits?
>>>
>>> It depends if it's a matter of a few hours or a few weeks.
>>>
>>> Jehan is right that we can imagine instant streamed videos -- the
>>> bootleg videos Dave Crossland posted in Toronto were popular precisely
>>> because they were available right away. But they were not a substitute
>>> for higher quality videos produce later.
>>>
>>> Best to get something up now if it isn't already, but perfectly OK to
>>> update the videos later.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Liam
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Liam R. E. Quin <liam at holoweb.net>
>>> The barefoot typographer
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