[LGM] the web infrastructure (Was: lgm/2024)

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hey

i really think impossible to build a tool that would really match the
needs. And i think more that each organizing would rather use the tools
they are used to manipulate. So i don’t see the option of developping
something specific as a good one.

When i was proposing to use the dynamic tool we built for Grafiklabor,
it was just for this year and not assuming it would be reused. But if
there is a wish for, this is build over Django, it’s home build so we
could do what we want, and self-hosted. I could manage it if needed.
But once again, this was not my full expectation.

Our needs are quite simple :
1. grab information from speakers about their conference
2. build page that display the program details to everyone, which can
be done with a static tool (whatever way to produce it)
3. eventually, get informations about visitors with a registering
process

1. can be done with mail, eventually ODT, markdown or PDF form
template. With this solution, the organizing has to deal with files
which is not very difficult.
2. if we don’t use dynamic tool to get submissions, i don’t see any
reason not building a static site. The pipeline should be different
regarding the first point choice. We’ve already use pelican, but elisa
is efficient with copy-paste too :-)
3. that’s the hard point, if we want to have an average count of future
visitors and improve organisation details. But this is not a need, only
comfort. We could just provide an email on the website and say "hey!
send email here if you wish to come". 

cheers.


Le jeudi 23 novembre 2023 à 13:54 +0100, ale rimoldi a écrit :
> hi cédric
> 
> yes, i guess that we might need to talk about our web infrastructure.
> 
> the current status:
> 
> for several years now, we have been hosted by tuxfamily.
> it's a simple hosting service that offers static websites and php
> (with
> a good ssh access to the site)
> 
> on the one side, this has provided us with a solution that needs very
> little maintenance from our part and is compatible with our loose
> organization.
> 
> on the other side, we have little choice on what we can run on the
> server.
> 
> for many years we have had a wordpress instance per year that was
> then
> converted to static files. it was ok and allowed some degree of
> collaboration but (without commercial plugins) i don't have the
> feeling
> that nowadays wordpress provides a satisfying solution.
> 
> the last few years we simply had static websites.
> that works well.
> but then we miss a tool for managing the submissions and
> registrations.
> 
> i've tried to look for tools for managing conferences that are
> compatible with our server.
> 
> i've found one that could work:
> 
> https://github.com/opencfp/opencfp
> 
> there are also a few plugin for wordpress, but they mostly are
> slimmed
> down version of pro (commercial; not really free software) plugins.
> 
> generally speaking, my impression is that (even outside of the php
> based solution) there are not so many tools that focus on managing
> the
> content. they are mostly tools for selling tickets. and most of the
> tools that somehow fit our needs, are tailored for way bigger
> meetings.
> 
> cédric is suggesting that the tool for managing the conference could
> run on their server.
> 
> this is a very interesting option, because if other server side
> languages can be used, there is wider set of tools to choose from.
> (as
> an example https://getindico.io/)
> 
> if we can find something fitting that would be perfect (but won't
> give
> a solution for future organizers, who don't have access to their own
> server).
> 
> there is one thing from my side: i'd prefer if we could have the
> schedule of talks and presenters on the lgm site and not on the
> external site. (we can always export it at the end, but it would be
> really nice if the links were correct from the start)
> 
> and in the future, we might think if we should have our own instance
> on
> a server. but, then, somebody has to regularly pay the fee and there
> must be administrators who keep it secure.
> 
> have a wonderful day
> a.l.e