<div dir="auto">Hi all,<div dir="auto"> </div><div dir="auto">as indicated, 2019 preferred at this pt.</div><div dir="auto"> </div><div dir="auto">Frank is right, the proposal says April 2018. When we submitted that seemed to lie in the distant future.</div><div dir="auto"> </div><div dir="auto">Best,</div><div dir="auto"> </div><div dir="auto">Soenke</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"> <div class="gmail_quote">Am 09.05.2017 3:26 nachm. schrieb "Jehan Pagès" <<a href="mailto:jehan.marmottard@gmail.com">jehan.marmottard@gmail.com</a>>: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi, On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 3:18 PM, Louis Desjardins <<a href="mailto:louis.desjardins@gmail.com">louis.desjardins@gmail.com</a>> wrote: > (way down below) > > 2017-05-09 8:23 GMT-04:00 Jehan Pagès <<a href="mailto:jehan.marmottard@gmail.com">jehan.marmottard@gmail.com</a>>: >> >> Hi! >> >> On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 2:00 PM, Louis Desjardins >> <<a href="mailto:louis.desjardins@gmail.com">louis.desjardins@gmail.com</a>> wrote: >> > All ok Frank! No worries! >> > >> > Per our 2-year process: >> > 2018 should have been known and announced in 2016 >> > 2019 should be known and announced in 2017 >> > 2010 should be known and announced in 2018 >> > >> > We’re late for 2018, on schedule for 2019 and ahead of time for 2020. >> > >> > As I see it, we have in fact 3 strong proposals, including Paris. >> >> Don't consider me as strong a proposal as others yet. I have not full >> confirmation of the place since I just started discussing (I started >> after coming back from LGM at Rio, since this is where I discussed the >> idea first) and my contact asked me to get in touch again later. >> Though indeed the contact was very interested and this is a place >> which regularly hosts FLOSS events (hence chances are high). >> >> I also have contacts with various other universities which (I'm sure) >> will be interested in case this first venue comes to be not possible. >> Yet nothing is set in stone at this point. >> >> > While 2020 seems a bit far away, I would suggest that people involved in >> > the >> > discussion take the 3 proposals in consideration. If all 3 proposers >> > could >> > tell us which year is possible/best, and for what reason, we could make >> > a >> > better decision and at the same time help the proposers. >> >> I have always said for 2019 or later, not before. > > > So, considering 2020 would be ok, right? Yes that would be ok. I would have preferred 2019 because 2020 feels so far to me (whereas 2018 is too close ;P). But the fact is that there are already 2 proposals which are still valid, and they are more certain than mine (since I just started to discuss with my contacts). So that makes total sense to favor the 2 others which seem solid. :-) Anyway I always said 2019 or later. I stick to this. Jehan > Which would be great since we have both 2018 and 2019 covered for now. > >> >> I don't even want to >> search for 2018 because it is too close now and don't want to rush >> things. My stance won't change there, so Paris is *not* for 2018. > > > Ok! > > Louis >> >> >> Jehan >> >> > Let’s see what others think. >> > >> > Louis >> > >> > >> > >> > 2017-05-09 7:49 GMT-04:00 Frank Trampe <<a href="mailto:frank.trampe@gmail.com">frank.trampe@gmail.com</a>>: >> >> >> >> (And given how much time had passed and the uncertain provenance of the >> >> proposal document, it certainly would have been good for me to confirm >> >> that.) >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 6:46 AM, Frank Trampe <<a href="mailto:frank.trampe@gmail.com">frank.trampe@gmail.com</a>> >> >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> In light of this new information, let's temporarily suspend voting. >> >>> I've >> >>> asked the Milan folks about whether they could do 2018 instead, and, >> >>> if so, >> >>> I will propose swapping. >> >>> >> >>> I also apologize for the confusion. I'm not sure who wrote the >> >>> original >> >>> venue proposal document, but it showed dates in April of next year, so >> >>> I >> >>> didn't discuss that in my recheck call with Soenke a few weeks ago. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 6:44 AM, Soenke Zehle <<a href="mailto:soenke@kein.org">soenke@kein.org</a>> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> Hi all, >> >>>> >> >>>> big misunderstanding on my part, I thought that you would vote on the >> >>>> venue first, then we'd go for picking a date that works best for >> >>>> everyone. But if there's interest in working with regional partners, >> >>>> coop with the (amazing) demoscene event etc, then 2019 would make a >> >>>> lot more sense for us. At least if LGM is a second-quarter event. >> >>>> >> >>>> As I had written funding-wise I think we'd be able to get similar >> >>>> support, i.e. low / no venue cost etc. Hope this doesn't confuse >> >>>> things too much - but since Zoe seems ready to roll for 2018, maybe >> >>>> that's a way to proceed. >> >>>> >> >>>> bestest, apologies for whatever confusion this creates. >> >>>> >> >>>> Soenke >> >>>> >> >>>> 2017-05-09 8:23 GMT+02:00 Soenke Zehle <<a href="mailto:soenke@kein.org">soenke@kein.org</a>>: >> >>>> > Hi all, >> >>>> > >> >>>> > happy to answer whatever questions you may have. We didn't mean to >> >>>> > push but depending on the likely scope of the event it does need a >> >>>> > bit >> >>>> > of organizing time. >> >>>> > >> >>>> > We also really enjoyed the discussion about Paris because we feel >> >>>> > that >> >>>> > especially now we need to make sure that cross-border cooperation >> >>>> > is >> >>>> > something we want and are comfortable with. Whatever you think >> >>>> > about >> >>>> > the EU, Europe works at the grassroots level, and because we have >> >>>> > colleagues in Metz (incl. <a href="http://tcrm-blida.com/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://tcrm-blida.com/</a>) and Luxembourg >> >>>> > (<a href="http://www.rockhal.lu/rocklab/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.rockhal.lu/rocklab/</a>, <a href="http://www.technoport.lu" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.technoport.lu</a>), each >> >>>> > about >> >>>> > an hour away, we would like them to act as co-hosts to whatever >> >>>> > extent >> >>>> > possible, linking the event to their local FLOSS dynamics and >> >>>> > possible >> >>>> > developing satellite events there. Jehan, if this would interest >> >>>> > you >> >>>> > and your colleagues, let's talk (regardless of whether we end up >> >>>> > doing >> >>>> > this in 2018 or 2019). >> >>>> > >> >>>> > Frank, after talking to my colleagues we feel that we would have >> >>>> > similar co-funding opportunities for 2019, all of which remain to >> >>>> > be >> >>>> > confirmed of course. So I really want to emphasize that 2018 and >> >>>> > 2019 >> >>>> > are both ok options for us. If 2018, first or second quarter might >> >>>> > be >> >>>> > a bit ambititious though, Sept would probably work better. For >> >>>> > 2019, >> >>>> > however, there would be more time to synch an LGM with >> >>>> > <a href="https://2017.revision-party.net/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://2017.revision-party.net/</a> which always occurs (not which is >> >>>> > always carefully organized by a group of highly committed people). >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > Best, >> >>>> > >> >>>> > Soenke >> >>>> > >> >>>> > 2017-05-08 20:54 GMT+02:00 Frank Trampe <<a href="mailto:frank.trampe@gmail.com">frank.trampe@gmail.com</a>>: >> >>>> >> Good call on adding the links. >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> We ought at least to build out a branding-compatible template for >> >>>> >> next >> >>>> >> year's website before handing off to local organizers, so I've >> >>>> >> started a new >> >>>> >> thread to get a web team together and to find our branding >> >>>> >> elements. >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 1:46 PM, Jehan Pagès >> >>>> >> <<a href="mailto:jehan.marmottard@gmail.com">jehan.marmottard@gmail.com</a>> >> >>>> >> wrote: >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> >>> Hi, >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> >>> On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 8:04 PM, Frank Trampe >> >>>> >>> <<a href="mailto:frank.trampe@gmail.com">frank.trampe@gmail.com</a>> >> >>>> >>> wrote: >> >>>> >>> > Per Lara's suggestion, I have opened an Etherpad document here >> >>>> >>> > ( >> >>>> >>> > <a href="https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/LGM_2018_Venue_Poll" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/LGM_2018_Venue_Poll</a> ) to >> >>>> >>> > record >> >>>> >>> > votes >> >>>> >>> > prior >> >>>> >>> > to the IRC chat, and I have voted. I encourage others to do so >> >>>> >>> > as >> >>>> >>> > soon >> >>>> >>> > as >> >>>> >>> > possible. >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> >>> I have read both propositions and voted yes to both. >> >>>> >>> Also I added the links to the proposals on the pad as well, so >> >>>> >>> that >> >>>> >>> people don't have to dig in the ML history to find these. >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> >>> > Per Louis's suggestion, I set the deadline for the 2019 >> >>>> >>> > question a >> >>>> >>> > week >> >>>> >>> > later so that we can focus on 2018 over the next week or so. >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> >>> Good. A week is ok. But there is no reason to delay much more. So >> >>>> >>> that's a good delay choice. :-) >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> >>> What would be really good as the next step for the 2018 LGM >> >>>> >>> (Saarbruecken if we agree on this, which seem like it will be the >> >>>> >>> case) will be that as soon as the vote is over, a new Wordpress >> >>>> >>> is >> >>>> >>> installed under 2018/ on the web server, not public yet (or at >> >>>> >>> least >> >>>> >>> not the default redirection) and an admin account could be given >> >>>> >>> to >> >>>> >>> the local team for them to design it. Ideally in the next few >> >>>> >>> months, >> >>>> >>> a brand new website at Saarbruecken colors could be up and >> >>>> >>> publicly >> >>>> >>> visible with the basic information (the kind of information from >> >>>> >>> the >> >>>> >>> proposal is a start). This should also help for funding to have a >> >>>> >>> web >> >>>> >>> presence. >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> >>> Jehan >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> >>> P.S.: thanks Frank for making this all in the public mailing >> >>>> >>> list. >> >>>> >>> As >> >>>> >>> you know, I really much appreciate this! :-) >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> >>> > On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 12:46 PM, Louis Desjardins >> >>>> >>> > <<a href="mailto:louis.desjardins@gmail.com">louis.desjardins@gmail.com</a>> wrote: >> >>>> >>> >> >> >>>> >>> >> 2017-05-08 11:15 GMT-04:00 Frank Trampe >> >>>> >>> >> <<a href="mailto:frank.trampe@gmail.com">frank.trampe@gmail.com</a>>: >> >>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> >>> >>> The reason that I'm trying to push this along is that Soenke >> >>>> >>> >>> from >> >>>> >>> >>> Saarbruecken had mentioned that he would probably need to >> >>>> >>> >>> start >> >>>> >>> >>> the >> >>>> >>> >>> formal >> >>>> >>> >>> process on some of the grants by the beginning of June. >> >>>> >>> >> >> >>>> >>> >> >> >>>> >>> >> Hi Frank, >> >>>> >>> >> >> >>>> >>> >> It’s very much appreciated that you push this. >> >>>> >>> >> >> >>>> >>> >> With no intention of slowing things down, my take is we should >> >>>> >>> >> stick to >> >>>> >>> >> our voting process. What has become urgent can be treated as >> >>>> >>> >> such. >> >>>> >>> >> >> >>>> >>> >> Keeping the focus on Saarbruecken for the 2018 decision in a >> >>>> >>> >> timely >> >>>> >>> >> manner >> >>>> >>> >> for the host is the way to go, IMO. >> >>>> >>> >> >> >>>> >>> >> Once 2018 has the go, we can concentrate on 2019. Which can >> >>>> >>> >> happen also >> >>>> >>> >> as >> >>>> >>> >> quickly as possible. >> >>>> >>> >> >> >>>> >>> >> Thanks for raising the flag! >> >>>> >>> >> >> >>>> >>> >> Cheers, >> >>>> >>> >> >> >>>> >>> >> Louis >> >>>> >>> >> >> >>>> >>> >> >> >>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> >>> >>> What sort of additional information would you like to request >> >>>> >>> >>> from the >> >>>> >>> >>> hosts? I already verified that the information in their >> >>>> >>> >>> proposals was >> >>>> >>> >>> still >> >>>> >>> >>> valid, and, since they're already being so generous with >> >>>> >>> >>> their >> >>>> >>> >>> time, I >> >>>> >>> >>> don't >> >>>> >>> >>> want to subject them to any unnecessary repetition. >> >>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> >>> >>> I may be in transit at the time of the proposed meeting next >> >>>> >>> >>> week. >> >>>> >>> >>> Would >> >>>> >>> >>> somebody save a chat log? And could we elaborate in advance >> >>>> >>> >>> what >> >>>> >>> >>> alternative >> >>>> >>> >>> courses of action would be discussed? >> >>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> >>> >>> On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 10:03 AM, Joao S. O. Bueno >> >>>> >>> >>> <<a href="mailto:gwidion@gmail.com">gwidion@gmail.com</a>> >> >>>> >>> >>> wrote: >> >>>> >>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>> On 8 May 2017 at 11:30, Frank Trampe >> >>>> >>> >>>> <<a href="mailto:frank.trampe@gmail.com">frank.trampe@gmail.com</a>> >> >>>> >>> >>>> wrote: >> >>>> >>> >>>> > (This is the first time that we've done this on the main >> >>>> >>> >>>> > list >> >>>> >>> >>>> > rather >> >>>> >>> >>>> > than >> >>>> >>> >>>> > the organization list, I think, so bear with me.) >> >>>> >>> >>>> > >> >>>> >>> >>>> > LGM has received hosting proposals from Saarbruecken and >> >>>> >>> >>>> > Milan for >> >>>> >>> >>>> > the >> >>>> >>> >>>> > 2018 >> >>>> >>> >>>> > and 2019 events. Both proposals are very strong and >> >>>> >>> >>>> > combine >> >>>> >>> >>>> > exciting >> >>>> >>> >>>> > locations and facilities with interested and supportive >> >>>> >>> >>>> > local >> >>>> >>> >>>> > communities, >> >>>> >>> >>>> > and so I believe that it makes sense to accept both of >> >>>> >>> >>>> > them. >> >>>> >>> >>>> > The >> >>>> >>> >>>> > Saarbruecken team have some significant fundraising >> >>>> >>> >>>> > opportunities >> >>>> >>> >>>> > that >> >>>> >>> >>>> > may >> >>>> >>> >>>> > only be available for 2018, though, so it makes sense, at >> >>>> >>> >>>> > least to >> >>>> >>> >>>> > me, >> >>>> >>> >>>> > that >> >>>> >>> >>>> > we meet in Saarbruecken in 2018 and Milan in 2019. >> >>>> >>> >>>> > >> >>>> >>> >>>> > As such, I propose the following motion: >> >>>> >>> >>>> > >> >>>> >>> >>>> > The Libre Graphics Meeting will take place in Saarbruecken >> >>>> >>> >>>> > in >> >>>> >>> >>>> > 2018 >> >>>> >>> >>>> > with >> >>>> >>> >>>> > Soenke Zehle as lead local organizer and in Milan in 2019 >> >>>> >>> >>>> > with Zoe >> >>>> >>> >>>> > Romano as >> >>>> >>> >>>> > lead local organizer. >> >>>> >>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>> Hi Frank - I thank you for acting as an embassador to the >> >>>> >>> >>>> proponents >> >>>> >>> >>>> of both venues, >> >>>> >>> >>>> but before casting a "formal vote" - or whatever- I think >> >>>> >>> >>>> it >> >>>> >>> >>>> would >> >>>> >>> >>>> be >> >>>> >>> >>>> nice to have the direct >> >>>> >>> >>>> "voice" of both proponents in an updated e-mail on this list >> >>>> >>> >>>> :-) >> >>>> >>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>> Tehn we could do one thing I not do for the 2017 conference >> >>>> >>> >>>> and >> >>>> >>> >>>> that >> >>>> >>> >>>> was >> >>>> >>> >>>> pointed >> >>>> >>> >>>> as the main motive for the small size of this years issue: >> >>>> >>> >>>> we >> >>>> >>> >>>> do a >> >>>> >>> >>>> live meeting on >> >>>> >>> >>>> IRC to debate the pros and cons of either proposal (or >> >>>> >>> >>>> another >> >>>> >>> >>>> approach) >> >>>> >>> >>>> - and >> >>>> >>> >>>> settle for that. >> >>>> >>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>> In oder not to stall things, I propose the date-time for >> >>>> >>> >>>> this >> >>>> >>> >>>> meeting >> >>>> >>> >>>> to >> >>>> >>> >>>> be >> >>>> >>> >>>> at 21h00 C.E.T. next Thursday (May, the 11th) on freenode >> >>>> >>> >>>> #LGM. >> >>>> >>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>> (We don't have to decide the venue this week - and we have >> >>>> >>> >>>> had >> >>>> >>> >>>> more >> >>>> >>> >>>> people >> >>>> >>> >>>> talking here than over the last several months - but this >> >>>> >>> >>>> things >> >>>> >>> >>>> could be discussed >> >>>> >>> >>>> live) >> >>>> >>> >>>> > >> >>>> >>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>> js >> >>>> >>> >>>> -><- >> >>>> >>> >>>> > >> >>>> >>> >>>> > It's very important that we resolve this in a timely >> >>>> >>> >>>> > fashion >> >>>> >>> >>>> > so >> >>>> >>> >>>> > that >> >>>> >>> >>>> > our >> >>>> >>> >>>> > hosts can begin planning, scheduling, networking, and >> >>>> >>> >>>> > fundraising. >> >>>> >>> >>>> > It's also >> >>>> >>> >>>> > important that we get positive responses here; silence is >> >>>> >>> >>>> > not >> >>>> >>> >>>> > a >> >>>> >>> >>>> > very >> >>>> >>> >>>> > reassuring form of endorsement. >> >>>> >>> >>>> > >> >>>> >>> >>>> > >> >>>> >>> >>>> > _______________________________________________ >> >>>> >>> >>>> > Libre-graphics-meeting mailing list >> >>>> >>> >>>> > <a href="mailto:Libre-graphics-meeting@lists.freedesktop.org">Libre-graphics-meeting@lists.freedesktop.org</a> >> >>>> >>> >>>> > >> >>>> >>> >>>> > >> >>>> >>> >>>> > >> >>>> >>> >>>> > <a href="https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libre-graphics-meeting" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libre-graphics-meeting</a> >> >>>> >>> >>>> > >> >>>> >>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>> >>> >>>> Libre-graphics-meeting mailing list 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