<div dir="auto"><div><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Nov 24, 2017 10:16 AM, "Louis Desjardins" <<a href="mailto:louis.desjardins@gmail.com">louis.desjardins@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="quoted-text">2017-11-24 11:51 GMT-05:00 Dave Crossland <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dave@lab6.com" target="_blank">dave@lab6.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote"><div dir="auto"><div><div style="font-family:sans-serif" dir="auto">Hi</div><div style="font-family:sans-serif" dir="auto"><br></div><div style="font-family:sans-serif" dir="auto">Who at GNOME Foundation can provide details of their interest in this and their overhead charges (if any)?</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>I just wrote to GNOME to explore that path. I am currently waiting for an answer. As soon as I get it, I will get back here.<br></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Super! Thank you Louis!!</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div><br> <br></div><div class="quoted-text"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote"><div dir="auto"><div><span class="m_7258580204552626118gmail-"><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><font face="sans-serif"><br></font></div><div dir="auto"><font face="sans-serif">On Nov 24, 2017 12:00 AM, "Soenke Zehle" <<a href="mailto:soenke@kein.org" target="_blank">soenke@kein.org</a>> wrote:</font></div><div dir="auto"><font face="sans-serif">> Hi all,</font></div><div dir="auto"><font face="sans-serif">> </font></div><div dir="auto"><font face="sans-serif">> the Saarbruecken network that submitted a proposal for 2019 includes a non-profit company in charge of the art academy's think tank, transfer and training activities. It is financed through overhead charges (which cover the cost of handling invoices etc) , but in principle this is an option if K8 were already to act as cooperating partner in 2018. Just an idea if GNOME falls through. </font></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div></span><span style="font-family:sans-serif">Thank you Soenke, this seems like a good Plan B to me. If we go that way, I wonder that the sponsorship agreement could potentially cover 2018 and 2019 LGMs to simplify things and have some continuity. </span></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>Yes, agree too that it’s a good plan B.<br><br></div><div>Let’s keep in mind that both the GNOME or the <span class="m_7258580204552626118gmail-"><font face="sans-serif">Saarbruecken network would only act as SFH (Secure Funds Holder) until everything is settled with SPI who will in turn take care of the reimbursement process after LGM.<br></font></span></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Wouldn't SPI also be merely a SFH and we still need someone to do the actual administration of the bursary?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div><span style="font-family:sans-serif">LGM Seville is 26-30 April 2018.</span><br></div><div><span class="m_7258580204552626118gmail-"><font face="sans-serif"><br></font></span></div><div><span class="m_7258580204552626118gmail-"><font face="sans-serif">Today is Nov. 24. That’s 5 months ahead of LGM. I believe the SPI way can be settled within those 5 months.<font color="#888888"><br></font></font></span></div><font color="#888888"><div><span class="m_7258580204552626118gmail-"><font face="sans-serif"><br></font></span> </div></font><div class="elided-text"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote"><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto">Do you know what the overhead charges are structured as, exactly? :)<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"> I'm guessing there are 2 sets of charges possible</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">- one for receiving the funds, holding them securely, and sending out a series of transfers clearly communicated by the person from LGM taking responsibility for the travel bursaries administration; </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">- one for doing that work, if such a person doesn't volunteer or isn't assigned this responsibility by the LGM organization</div><span class="m_7258580204552626118gmail-"><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto" class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Nov 24, 2017 6:42 AM, "ale" <<a href="mailto:a@414c45.net" target="_blank">a@414c45.net</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="m_7258580204552626118gmail-m_2147285622062822245quote">Hi Dave!<br>
We've bank accounts of course but I think the main issue then is the<br>
administration of this money </blockquote></div></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div></span><div dir="auto">I agree!</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto">I think we need to schedule a quick vote or two, to (a) formally set out there process of offering and administering a travel bursary and (b) solicit volunteers and/or nominees, and pick one.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">This administration would invite handling all of the pre-payment work: committing a final list of recipients, amounts, and payment addresses.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Having worked with Frank Trampe as a fontforge contract developer I think he would be effective in this and hereby nominate him :)</div></div><span class="m_7258580204552626118gmail-"><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="m_7258580204552626118gmail-m_2147285622062822245quote">(and the taxes of receving such a payment:<br>
we'd need to look for a 'formula' for handling this because these<br>
accounts are not related to a non-profit activity).<br></blockquote></div></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div></span><div dir="auto">As I said, I believe if the payments in and out are within the accounting year of a taxable organization, the organization won't be liable for taxation. I am not an accountant and this is not accounting advice, but I'm eager to hear from anyone who thinks I'm wrong on this point :)</div><span class="m_7258580204552626118gmail-"><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="m_7258580204552626118gmail-m_2147285622062822245quote">
I always thought this is not a task of the local group but of a specific<br>
comission of the 'international network'. Am I wrong with this? I fear<br>
that it could become too much work if we add to the organisational tasks<br>
to keep track of the money and the reimbursements.</blockquote></div></div></div></span><div dir="auto"><div style="font-family:sans-serif" dir="auto"><br></div><div style="font-family:sans-serif" dir="auto">I agree that this should not fall on the shoulders of the local team unless they are eager to do it. </div><div style="font-family:sans-serif" dir="auto"><br></div><div style="font-family:sans-serif" dir="auto">If there is no volunteer that the central committee holds responsible for administering travel bursaries, it seems to me inevitable that the organization will have to use some of the funds to pay for a contractor to be responsible. </div><div style="font-family:sans-serif" dir="auto"><br></div><div style="font-family:sans-serif" dir="auto">I have no problem with that, although I recognize that such contracting can be corrosive to volunteer led efforts. </div><div style="font-family:sans-serif" dir="auto"><br></div><div style="font-family:sans-serif" dir="auto">Cheers</div><span class="m_7258580204552626118gmail-HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div style="font-family:sans-serif" dir="auto">Dave</div><div style="font-family:sans-serif" dir="auto"><br></div></font></span></div><div><div class="m_7258580204552626118gmail-h5"><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="m_7258580204552626118gmail-m_2147285622062822245quote">
<br>
Best,<br>
Ale.<br>
<br>
<br>
El 24/11/17 a las 00:49, Dave Crossland escribió:<br>
<div class="m_7258580204552626118gmail-m_2147285622062822245quoted-text">> Hi<br>
><br>
> Would the local venue host be able to accept such a payment, and have<br>
> someone to administer the expense claims?<br>
><br>
> On Nov 23, 2017 5:47 PM, "Dave Crossland" <<a href="mailto:dave@lab6.com" target="_blank">dave@lab6.com</a><br>
</div><div class="m_7258580204552626118gmail-m_2147285622062822245quoted-text">> <mailto:<a href="mailto:dave@lab6.com" target="_blank">dave@lab6.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Hi<br>
><br>
> Thanks Louis :) <br>
><br>
> To be clear I'm not making that offer right now, but saying I'm<br>
> willing to work within Google to advocate for it. However before I<br>
> do that, I want to be sure that there is a recipient organization<br>
> ready to go if I can succeed :) <br>
><br>
> On Nov 23, 2017 2:30 PM, "Louis Desjardins"<br>
</div><div class="m_7258580204552626118gmail-m_2147285622062822245quoted-text">> <<a href="mailto:louis.desjardins@gmail.com" target="_blank">louis.desjardins@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:louis.desjardins@gmail.com" target="_blank">louis.desjardins@gmail<wbr>.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> 2017-11-23 16:05 GMT-05:00 Dave Crossland <<a href="mailto:dave@lab6.com" target="_blank">dave@lab6.com</a><br>
</div>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:dave@lab6.com" target="_blank">dave@lab6.com</a>>>:<br>
<div class="m_7258580204552626118gmail-m_2147285622062822245elided-text">><br>
><br>
> Hi<br>
><br>
> Google is a big company, but Google Fonts is not a big team,<br>
> and it would be just me handling this, and I don't have time<br>
> to administer individual reimbursements. What I do have time<br>
> for is a single sponsorship agreement (using a Google<br>
> template contract) and cutting a single check to an LGM<br>
> entity, be that an umbrella one or a direct one. <br>
><br>
> Am I right that if Google Fonts was to offer to sponsor LGM<br>
> with a single $15,000 payment in December (ie, get the<br>
> agreement signed before end of this month, next week, then<br>
> invoice within first two weeks of December) then this<br>
> wouldn't be possible because LGM has no legal entity that<br>
> could sign a sponsorship agreement and invoice the money?<br>
><br>
> If so, that's a pity, because it may be easier for me to<br>
> offer than now then next year, due to the nature of 'end of<br>
> year' liquidity. <br>
><br>
><br>
> This is a fan-tas-tic opportunity we ab-so-lu-te-ly cannot let go!<br>
><br>
> I strongly urge the LGM organisers to enforce the decision that<br>
> was made years ago when we thoroughly discussed about the<br>
> finances as to go for SPI without delay.<br>
><br>
> If we feel we need a vote, then let’s organise one.<br>
><br>
> More infos are posted here:<br>
> <a rel="noreferrer" href="https://www.spi-inc.org/projects/associated-project-howto/" target="_blank">https://www.spi-inc.org/proje<wbr>cts/associated-project-howto/</a><br>
> <<a rel="noreferrer" href="https://www.spi-inc.org/projects/associated-project-howto/" target="_blank">https://www.spi-inc.org/proj<wbr>ects/associated-project-howto/</a><wbr>><br>
><br>
> It takes a couple months (there is a 60-day delay once the Board<br>
> has accepted), so we’re not ahead of time. The Board of SPI has<br>
> to meet (monthly) and analyse the project before they submit it.<br>
><br>
> If this is too long and puts the Google Font subsidy at risk,<br>
> then the only other viable solution I can think of, is to ask<br>
> the GNOME Foundation to make the Google transaction for LGM and<br>
> then transfert that money to SPI once we’re accepted officially.<br>
> They will be both US 501(c)3 Non-Profit Organizations and so can<br>
> send money to one another with not fiscal impact (at least, this<br>
> is what I understand and it would be advisable to check this<br>
> first with both SPI and GNOME). Whether GNOME would still take a<br>
> % off the grant remains to be discussed. We should be able to<br>
> negociate a no-fee transaction for such a particular case.<br>
><br>
> If someone has a better idea, please step in quick. This is an<br>
> urgent matter.<br>
><br>
> Thanks Dave!<br>
><br>
> Louis<br>
> <br>
><br>
><br>
> Cheers<br>
> Dave<br>
><br>
> On 22 November 2017 at 19:05, Louis Desjardins<br>
> <<a href="mailto:louis.desjardins@gmail.com" target="_blank">louis.desjardins@gmail.com</a><br>
</div><div class="m_7258580204552626118gmail-m_2147285622062822245quoted-text">> <mailto:<a href="mailto:louis.desjardins@gmail.com" target="_blank">louis.desjardins@gmai<wbr>l.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Hi folks,<br>
><br>
> After reading tonight’s log, here my 2-cents.<br>
><br>
> I strongly support that we connect with SPI.<br>
> <a rel="noreferrer" href="https://www.spi-inc.org/projects/services/" target="_blank">https://www.spi-inc.org/proje<wbr>cts/services/</a><br>
> <<a rel="noreferrer" href="https://www.spi-inc.org/projects/services/" target="_blank">https://www.spi-inc.org/proj<wbr>ects/services/</a>><br>
> and let them handle the money and the reimbursements.<br>
><br>
</div>> /The tax-deductible thing is really only noise in the<br>
<div class="m_7258580204552626118gmail-m_2147285622062822245quoted-text">> discussion. Each country handles its fiscal law<br>
> regardless of others. There is no practical solution to<br>
> this problem. If we go the SPI way, money donated by<br>
> individuals from within the USA will be tax-deducted,<br>
> other money won’t. However, a regular compagny that<br>
> would provide a subsidy to LGM from anywhere in the<br>
> world will probably enter it into its expenses and thus<br>
> will reduce by the same its bottom line... and hence<br>
> will pay less income tax. Again, not an issue. (Also,<br>
> considering the average amount we got from individuals<br>
> (in Pledgie), this was less than $50 so tax-deductible<br>
> would only be a fraction of small amounts. Nothing worth<br>
> establishing a global multinational organisation to save<br>
</div>> little money. Let’s not get hysterical!)/<br>
<div class="m_7258580204552626118gmail-m_2147285622062822245quoted-text">><br>
> I suggest we vote on this to give some weight to the<br>
> decision. If the majority votes for SPI, we’re in; money<br>
> can go there.<br>
><br>
> What’s left to us is to find sponsors. SPI won’t help<br>
> us. But they can handle the money, in and out.<br>
><br>
> If we’d prefer, we could vote on the reimbursements and<br>
> ask if we want to pursue, or not.<br>
><br>
> In any way, we need to clarify things quick.<br>
><br>
> We also need to think long-term.<br>
><br>
> Cheers!<br>
><br>
> Louis<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> 2017-11-19 6:36 GMT-05:00 Louis Desjardins<br>
> <<a href="mailto:louis.desjardins@gmail.com" target="_blank">louis.desjardins@gmail.com</a><br>
</div>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:louis.desjardins@gmail.com" target="_blank">louis.desjardins@gmai<wbr>l.com</a>>>:<br>
<div class="m_7258580204552626118gmail-m_2147285622062822245quoted-text">><br>
> 2017-11-18 16:13 GMT-05:00 Dave Crossland<br>
</div>> <<a href="mailto:dave@lab6.com" target="_blank">dave@lab6.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:dave@lab6.com" target="_blank">dave@lab6.com</a>>>:<br>
<div class="m_7258580204552626118gmail-m_2147285622062822245elided-text">><br>
> Hi<br>
><br>
> I think Google Fonts may be interested in this<br>
> sponsorship, with a focus on bringing people<br>
> together to do focused work on Variable Font<br>
> support in all libre graphics applications. <br>
><br>
> Felipe Sanches was working on Inkscape support<br>
> and got stuck, so if he can attend and meet<br>
> Inkscape core devs to make progress towards<br>
> being ready to ship, that would be great. <br>
><br>
> What were the total budgets for lgms in the past?<br>
><br>
><br>
> Roughly :<br>
> - Europe LGMs : 10-15K USD<br>
> - North America LGMs - 20-30K USD<br>
> - Outside “Occidental North” is much higher (from<br>
> rough evaluations).<br>
><br>
> The numbers greatly vary from the needs of<br>
> travellers and we have no way of accurately<br>
> predicting this until late in the process of<br>
> organising a LGM (ie, after we know who’s coming<br>
> from which team, who makes a talk, who animates a<br>
> workshop, who’s in need of travel sponsoring).<br>
><br>
> If you can have money from Google (say, they reserve<br>
> an envelope of 15K for Sevilla), the best way to<br>
> handle it would be through them directly (Google<br>
> money to sponsored participant directly), using<br>
> their administrative way, forms, money handling, etc.<br>
><br>
> If this is not feasible but Google accepts to<br>
> sponsor the event, then we need an organisation to<br>
> handle this.<br>
><br>
> From experience, the reimbursement process is not<br>
> easy because of the many variables that are unknown<br>
> at some point in the reimbursement process,<br>
> including bad bank infos, missing documents,<br>
> impossibility to handle a reimbursement based on<br>
> where in the world the transaction ends (some money<br>
> get stuck months in intermediary banks). Probably<br>
> things that a company such as Google would handle best.<br>
><br>
> *<br>
><br>
> To those who have been participating in the past<br>
> discussions on that subject:<br>
><br>
</div>> 1. I am permanently out of this process now, given<br>
<div class="m_7258580204552626118gmail-m_2147285622062822245quoted-text">> a) the level of dissatisfaction and b) the level<br>
> of non-enthusiasm the detailed proposals I’ve<br>
> made to solve the issue in a sustainable manner<br>
> have received.<br>
</div>> 2. We definitely had a final decision of moving to<br>
<div class="m_7258580204552626118gmail-m_2147285622062822245quoted-text">> a international non-profit organisation who<br>
> already handles the money of many FLOSS<br>
> projects, for a decent fee. Side note: I am<br>
> *very surprised* to see that in the past 3<br>
> years, and after the heavy discussions we had<br>
> about finances, nothing has moved forward<br>
> (although the decision was made). Lots of talks,<br>
> no action.<br>
><br>
> It’s never to late for action. Either give up on<br>
> reimbursements or make it happen.<br>
><br>
> To me, if Dave can have Google be on our side again<br>
> and handle the reimbursements, I support this<br>
> strongly. I think it’s the most simple way and it<br>
> will take away from us the most difficult task in<br>
> the organisation of LGM.<br>
><br>
> As a long time LGM supporter and organiser, I am<br>
> still ready to help, with other stuff.<br>
><br>
> Have a wonderful day!<br>
><br>
> Louis<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> <br>
><br>
><br>
> On Nov 18, 2017 10:38 AM, "Gregory Pittman"<br>
</div>> <<a href="mailto:gpittman@iglou.com" target="_blank">gpittman@iglou.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:gpittman@iglou.com" target="_blank">gpittman@iglou.com</a>>><br>
<div class="m_7258580204552626118gmail-m_2147285622062822245elided-text">> wrote:<br>
><br>
> On 11/18/2017 10:01 AM, ale rimoldi wrote:<br>
> > hi<br>
> ><br>
> > so, if i understand it correctly, the<br>
> current status is that we will<br>
> > not have any "official" reimbursement of<br>
> travel costs from the global<br>
> > lgm for 2018.<br>
> ><br>
> > if anybody is not comfortable with this,<br>
> please step up before the next<br>
> > lgm meeting and let us discuss it!<br>
> ><br>
> > (for reference: it has also been suggested<br>
> that we should get (and<br>
> > help...) the teams to collect their own<br>
> money).<br>
> ><br>
><br>
> I think another way to look at this is to<br>
> try to see it from the<br>
> outside. Why would or should some outside<br>
> organization donate to this<br>
> meeting? What's in it for them? We know it<br>
> doesn't have to be some<br>
> monetary return for some corporation, but<br>
> still, of the various meetings<br>
> and organizations that are out there, why<br>
> donate to LGM?<br>
><br>
> We have to try to begin to answer this question.<br>
><br>
> Having said this, I have put out a feeler to<br>
> Red Hat, and so far the<br>
> response has been rather feeble.<br>
><br>
> Greg<br>
><br>
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