<div dir="ltr"><div><div>Sorry, I didn’t realise I was only sending my answer to Dave only.<br><br></div>Now forwarding to the list.<br><br></div>Louis<span class="gmail-gI"><span></span></span><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2017-11-27 17:55 GMT-05:00 Louis Desjardins <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:louis.desjardins@gmail.com" target="_blank">louis.desjardins@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><span class="">2017-11-27 17:32 GMT-05:00 Dave Crossland <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dave@lab6.com" target="_blank">dave@lab6.com</a>></span>:<br></span><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><span class=""><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote"><div dir="auto"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra">Hi</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">As I understand it, Louis had only engaged GNOME Foundation in terms of holding funds while SPI member project status was set up, which will not happen at least until 11th December 2017, ruling SPI out for this year. </div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></span><div>Hi Dave,<br><br></div><div>From the accounting perspective, an expanse (such as a sponsorship from Google) can occur in a month (say, December 2017) and the payment can occur later (say, in January 2018). The expanse will be accounted on the date it was actually decided (invoice date is determinant) and not when paid (payment can occur months after an invoice was made).<br></div><span class=""><div> </div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote"><div dir="auto"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Now that the Plan A (GNOME) option is now closed, then, all that is left there for us now is to say thank you to Louis for investigating it. Thank you Louis! :) <br></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></span><div>I am happy to give a hand! <br></div><span class=""><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote"><div dir="auto"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><br>On to Plan B: K8 (the name of the non-profit company in charge of the art academy's think tank/transfer/training activities in Saarbruecken :) </div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Since the money would be sponsorship for (a) videos of all sessions posted on YouTube with a 'thanks' intro card (as you can see on eg <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MAuBdLsICc" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/wat<wbr>ch?v=4MAuBdLsICc</a>) and (b) for travel bursary, especially to help get people together to hack on Variable Fonts support now provided by freetype, then K8 will take a 19% cut for handling everything. </div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></span><div>SPI asks for 4%. To the best of my knowledge, GNOME was just about the same. As a comparison, 19% cut seems rather high.</div><span class=""><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote"><div dir="auto"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="auto" class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div dir="auto" class="gmail_extra">That seems like the easiest solution and frees up Frank's volunteer time to do other stuff (like maybe help arrange the video recordings/streaming to be done using only libre software? :)</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></span><div>Dave, only to be sure I understand correctly what you say, do you mean that K8 could handle the money from Google to the extent of handling the reimbursements for 2018 (and then, maybe, follow up with 2019)? Do you evacuate totally SPI in that proposal? Would K8 be able to act as a SFH (secure funds holder)?<br><br></div><div>I would still investigate with SPI if they would at least consider LGM to be a project member. Their statement is clear on their website and they can handle what we can’t handle anymore, at a reasonable cost. Also, if the PO from Google can be submitted before 2017 ends, I see no accounting reasons that would prevent them to put the expanse in 2017 (provided their fiscal year ends on Dec. 31, which is not the case of all companies but only the case of all individuals).<br><br></div><div>If needed, I can make the first steps with SPI and keep you guys informed of how it goes. However I will not be the responsible person further than establishing the contact and maybe a few steps further. At some point, somebody else will have to step in. But this would at least require a formal decision (or the apparence of a formal decision) by the LGM community.<br><br></div><div>Do we, or do we not, want to become member of SPI and have them handle our incoming money as well as our reimbursements (or other LGM expanses that fit into the SPI rules)?<br><br></div><div>Cheers!<br></div><div><br></div><div>Louis<br></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote"><div dir="auto"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Cheers</div><span class="m_-5833622114142136035gmail-HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div class="gmail_extra">Dave</div></font></span></div></div> </blockquote></div><br></div></div> </blockquote></div><br></div></div>