<div dir="ltr">Hi, Dave.<div> </div><div>Thanks for that. If everybody feels similarly, I'd be happy to move on to other pressing business now that this is fixed as much as it can be.</div><div> </div><div>Thanks to Dave Crossland and Pippin for swift damage control.</div><div> </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"> <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, May 1, 2018 at 3:33 PM, Dave Neary <<a href="mailto:dneary@gnome.org" target="_blank">dneary@gnome.org</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi Frank, I don't post here often any more, but my suggestion at this stage would be not to double down on arguing that you are right. I have not seen any evidence here that anyone believes you acted with malicious intent, nor is anyone saying that you're wrong to be critical of the Saudi government - just that this is not the right forum. In my opinion the proper course of action at this point is just to recognise that you misread the room, and we all move on. Thanks, Dave. On 05/01/2018 04:15 PM, Frank Trampe wrote: > Dave has provided me specific examples off list of the dangers of > associating the organization with criticism of particular regimes, and I > now agree that we need to be careful to avoid incurring their wrath. > > That said, danger of retribution against participants is a separate > issue from the mission of the present code of conduct. Can we all agree > that its intent is not to protect government leaders from satire and > criticism? > > > On Tue, May 1, 2018, 14:54 Øyvind Kolås <<a href="mailto:pippin@gimp.org">pippin@gimp.org</a> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:pippin@gimp.org">pippin@gimp.org</a>>> wrote: > > On Tue, May 1, 2018 at 7:56 PM, Dave Crossland <<a href="mailto:dave@lab6.com">dave@lab6.com</a> <div><div class="h5">> <mailto:<a href="mailto:dave@lab6.com">dave@lab6.com</a>>> wrote: > > Hi Frank > > > > It was a bad idea to post that attachment. Joking aside, are you > the author? > > > > > <a href="https://libregraphicsmeeting.org/lgm/public-documentation/code-of-conduct/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://libregraphicsmeeting.org/lgm/public-documentation/code-of-conduct/</a> > > starts with, highlights mine: > > > > "Since it’s early beginnings in 2006, the Libre Graphics Meeting > has been a > > melting pot where free software developers, practitioners and > artists from > > all over the world have a chance to meet each other, exchange > ideas, and > > plan the future of Free, Libre and Open Source graphics. The > meeting is all > > about participation: free to attend, it is open to all. > > > > We intend the Libre Graphics Meeting to be an event that inspires > mutual > > respect, collaboration and exchange. The Libre Graphics Meeting > Code of > > Conduct states our shared ideas about the desired behaviour of > participants > > and organisers. This document is about conduct at the actual meeting, > > (including related social events, presentations and workshops), > > communication on the LGM mailing lists and IRC channels. > > > > The Libre Graphics community is committed to providing a safe and > welcoming > > environment for all participants, regardless of, for example: > ethnicity, > > gender, sexual orientation, age, appearance, impairment, religion, or > > technical ability." > > I asked the administrators of freedesktop to remove the PDF attachment > from the mailinglist archive - which they've thankfully managed to do > swiftly, hopefully before spreading and getting mirrored further. If > anyone has concerns about that, it can be brought up with > <a href="mailto:sitewranglers@lists.freedesktop.org">sitewranglers@lists.freedesktop.org</a> </div></div>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:sitewranglers@lists.freedesktop.org">sitewranglers@lists.freedesktop.org</a>> > > <a href="http://freedesktop.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">freedesktop.org</a> <<a href="http://freedesktop.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://freedesktop.org</a>> as our host has its own > code of conduct which can be > seen here: <a href="https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/CodeOfConduct" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/CodeOfConduct</a> > > regards - pippin > _______________________________________________ > Libre-graphics-meeting mailing list > <a href="mailto:Libre-graphics-meeting@lists.freedesktop.org">Libre-graphics-meeting@lists.freedesktop.org</a> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:Libre-graphics-meeting@lists.freedesktop.org">Libre-graphics-meeting@lists.freedesktop.org</a>> > <a href="https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libre-graphics-meeting" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libre-graphics-meeting</a> <div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">> > > > _______________________________________________ > Libre-graphics-meeting mailing list > <a href="mailto:Libre-graphics-meeting@lists.freedesktop.org">Libre-graphics-meeting@lists.freedesktop.org</a> > <a href="https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libre-graphics-meeting" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libre-graphics-meeting</a> > </div></div></blockquote></div> </div>