<div dir="ltr">Sorry. I misread the chat. I was distracted by the other comment in the message.<div><br></div><div>So the GIMP folks did clearly state that they would not allow co-branding of the videos but also that it would be okay to post the videos on YouTube.</div><div><br></div><div>I assume that this discussion proceeded to a sponsorship agreement between the GIMP and the local hosts under those terms.</div><div><br></div><div>So I renew my query from before. Could we reach some arrangement by which we post co-branded videos in one place and GIMP-exclusive videos in another?</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 1:26 PM Frank Trampe <<a href="mailto:frank.trampe@gmail.com">frank.trampe@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 1:21 PM Jehan Pagès <<a href="mailto:jehan.marmottard@gmail.com" target="_blank">jehan.marmottard@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">Hi!<br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 3:10 AM Frank Trampe <<a href="mailto:frank.trampe@gmail.com" target="_blank">frank.trampe@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>I agree that we need to be faithful to past agreements/obligations, but we need to know what those are in order to do so. Would somebody involved provide here the full agreement (in whatever form that might be) regarding the GIMP's LGM sponsorship?<br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>The parts I have from copy-pastes. No idea if some sentences are missing in-between:</div><div><br></div><div>16:27 < soenke> @pippin re sponsoring -
Google can help but easiest for them would be videos w/ logo (only proof
needed, money can go to general travel budget as we). Would that work
if Gimp also comes on board f sponsorship?</div><div>16:40 < pippin> soenke: trying to gather response, but I am quite sure it will be NO<br>16:42 < pippin> soenke: offer google their logo on the website and/or printed program, GIMP funds are ear-marked not for general travel, since continuing that practice is a bit unfaithful to the people who have donating the funds to GIMP.<br>16:47 < soenke> @pippin ok will tell them<br>16:54 < soenke> @pippin ok spoke with Google - all is fine as long as videos (also) end up on youtube<br> </div><div><br></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div>That sounds like the Google logo can go on videos? Are we missing context about whose logo that is?</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div></div>I think that it's important to understand people's priorities here. My understanding is that the GIMP pays for its own travel and for the video services not for the sponsorship credit but to keep our rather fragile event alive. If some other party is willing to pick up those costs instead, would the GIMP really say no to that just to keep exclusive sponsorship recognition?</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I didn't say this at all.</div><div>You are twisting my words and this is completely uncool. So much that I'm not sure I want to continue this discussion.</div><div>This kind of rethorical techniques are totally uncalled for and not the way to a sane discussion.</div><div><br></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div>I was not saying that you said that. I was backing up your argument that there was definitely room to work this out, regardless of what prior agreement might be in place.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div></div><div>Jehan</div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 1:00 PM Gregory Pittman <<a href="mailto:gpittman@iglou.com" target="_blank">gpittman@iglou.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">At this point, I think it's a matter of unruffling feathers and then seeing if this can be worked out. If Google is insistent on sole funding for the videos, then it may be that they need to be told this is not available. If they can be flexible, considering that the potential partner in sponsoring is not a competitor, and indeed one of the prime projects to start LGM in the first place (I hope they don't need to be told this).<br>
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Gimp must have its due in this situation, just as we would be fair if some other concern approached us about funding after Google. We need to have some clear points for Dave to take back to them to see if it can be worked out.<br>
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Greg<br>
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