<div dir="auto">Hi<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">That's all good, one thing, the last point sort of doesn't make sense with the exact wording, so I propose:</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">"An image or set of images that uses the Google logo, any other logos, and communicates a similar statement to the above visually, shall be included for 3 seconds, at the start of 2 short promotional videos about the 2018 event and the 2019 event, subject to design approval by Google before publication"<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, May 6, 2019, 3:28 PM Pat David <<a href="mailto:patdavid@gmail.com">patdavid@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Ok, small update. I managed to chat a bit with Dave (thanks for taking the time!) earlier today and this is what I think we have agreed to.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">-----8<------</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">
<div id="m_-1897241623314432530gmail-magicdomid54" class="m_-1897241623314432530gmail-ace-line"><span class="m_-1897241623314432530gmail-author-a-wz78z695iz68zz90zz72zvioz77zoz84zz66z">The primary intent of Google’s sponsorship is to facilitate the timely publication of edited audio-video recordings of event presentations soon after the conclusion of the event. Remaining funds can be used by the Organization at its discretion for the benefit of the event, such as paying speakers’ travel expenses. Organization will arrange for audio-video recordings of all the stage presentations to be made.</span></div><div id="m_-1897241623314432530gmail-magicdomid55" class="m_-1897241623314432530gmail-ace-line"><span class="m_-1897241623314432530gmail-author-a-wz78z695iz68zz90zz72zvioz77zoz84zz66z"> </span></div><div id="m_-1897241623314432530gmail-magicdomid56" class="m_-1897241623314432530gmail-ace-line"><span class="m_-1897241623314432530gmail-author-a-wz78z695iz68zz90zz72zvioz77zoz84zz66z">Organization will arrange for the recordings to undergo a high-quality editing and post-production process.</span></div><div id="m_-1897241623314432530gmail-magicdomid57" class="m_-1897241623314432530gmail-ace-line"><br></div><div id="m_-1897241623314432530gmail-magicdomid58" class="m_-1897241623314432530gmail-ace-line"><span class="m_-1897241623314432530gmail-author-a-wz78z695iz68zz90zz72zvioz77zoz84zz66z">Organization will arrange for the edited videos to be uploaded to YouTube on the “Libre Graphics Meeting” Channel (</span><span class="m_-1897241623314432530gmail-author-a-wz78z695iz68zz90zz72zvioz77zoz84zz66z m_-1897241623314432530gmail-url"><a href="https://www.youtube.com/user/LibreGraphicsMeeting)" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://www.youtube.com/user/LibreGraphicsMeeting)</a></span><span class="m_-1897241623314432530gmail-author-a-wz78z695iz68zz90zz72zvioz77zoz84zz66z"> before the Project End Date.</span></div><div id="m_-1897241623314432530gmail-magicdomid59" class="m_-1897241623314432530gmail-ace-line"><br></div><div id="m_-1897241623314432530gmail-magicdomid60" class="m_-1897241623314432530gmail-ace-line"><span class="m_-1897241623314432530gmail-author-a-wz78z695iz68zz90zz72zvioz77zoz84zz66z">To encourage and facilitate use, remixing, and widespread dissemination as an open educational resource, Organization will arrange for all video to be released under a "free cultural work" license, such as the Creative Commons "Attribution" or "Attribution ShareAlike" licenses.</span></div><div id="m_-1897241623314432530gmail-magicdomid61" class="m_-1897241623314432530gmail-ace-line"><br></div><div id="m_-1897241623314432530gmail-magicdomid62" class="m_-1897241623314432530gmail-ace-line"><span class="m_-1897241623314432530gmail-author-a-wz78z695iz68zz90zz72zvioz77zoz84zz66z">---</span></div><div id="m_-1897241623314432530gmail-magicdomid63" class="m_-1897241623314432530gmail-ace-line"><br></div><div id="m_-1897241623314432530gmail-magicdomid64" class="m_-1897241623314432530gmail-ace-line"><span class="m_-1897241623314432530gmail-author-a-wz78z695iz68zz90zz72zvioz77zoz84zz66z">- Google's logo, linked to the Google Fonts About Page (<a href="http://fonts.google.com/about" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">fonts.google.com/about</a>), shall be added to the Libre Graphics Meeting 2019 website sponsorship, programme and home pages, subject to design approval by Google before publication.</span></div><div id="m_-1897241623314432530gmail-magicdomid65" class="m_-1897241623314432530gmail-ace-line"><br></div><div id="m_-1897241623314432530gmail-magicdomid66" class="m_-1897241623314432530gmail-ace-line"><span class="m_-1897241623314432530gmail-author-a-wz78z695iz68zz90zz72zvioz77zoz84zz66z">- Text describing the sponsorship on the sponsorship page, subject to approval by Google before publication.</span></div><div id="m_-1897241623314432530gmail-magicdomid67" class="m_-1897241623314432530gmail-ace-line"><br></div><div id="m_-1897241623314432530gmail-magicdomid68" class="m_-1897241623314432530gmail-ace-line"><span class="m_-1897241623314432530gmail-author-a-wz78z695iz68zz90zz72zvioz77zoz84zz66z">- If a printed Programme is to be offered to event participants, the Google logo shall be included, subject to design approval by Google before publication.</span></div><div id="m_-1897241623314432530gmail-magicdomid69" class="m_-1897241623314432530gmail-ace-line"><br></div><div id="m_-1897241623314432530gmail-magicdomid70" class="m_-1897241623314432530gmail-ace-line"><span class="m_-1897241623314432530gmail-author-a-wz78z695iz68zz90zz72zvioz77zoz84zz66z">- Opening and closing remarks from the main stage by a representative of Organization shall include positive recognition of the sponsorship.</span></div><div id="m_-1897241623314432530gmail-magicdomid71" class="m_-1897241623314432530gmail-ace-line"><br></div><div id="m_-1897241623314432530gmail-magicdomid72" class="m_-1897241623314432530gmail-ace-line"><span class="m_-1897241623314432530gmail-author-a-wz78z695iz68zz90zz72zvioz77zoz84zz66z">- A statement in the description field of each video uploaded to YouTube that includes a text approved by Google. For example:</span></div><div id="m_-1897241623314432530gmail-magicdomid73" class="m_-1897241623314432530gmail-ace-line"><span class="m_-1897241623314432530gmail-author-a-wz78z695iz68zz90zz72zvioz77zoz84zz66z">"This presentation was recorded on 1st June 2019 as part of Libre Graphics Meeting 2019, at the Hochschule der Bildenden Künste Saar in Saarbruecken, Germany. Th</span><span class="m_-1897241623314432530gmail-author-a-qnhz75zz72zz69z6az74zhz122zz88zz67zz69zxz69z">is video</span><span class="m_-1897241623314432530gmail-author-a-wz78z695iz68zz90zz72zvioz77zoz84zz66z"> was made possible </span><span class="m_-1897241623314432530gmail-author-a-qnhz75zz72zz69z6az74zhz122zz88zz67zz69zxz69z">through</span><span class="m_-1897241623314432530gmail-author-a-wz78z695iz68zz90zz72zvioz77zoz84zz66z"> </span><span class="m_-1897241623314432530gmail-author-a-qnhz75zz72zz69z6az74zhz122zz88zz67zz69zxz69z">sponsor</span><span class="m_-1897241623314432530gmail-author-a-wz78z695iz68zz90zz72zvioz77zoz84zz66z">s</span><span class="m_-1897241623314432530gmail-author-a-qnhz75zz72zz69z6az74zhz122zz88zz67zz69zxz69z">hip and volunteer work </span><span class="m_-1897241623314432530gmail-author-a-wz78z695iz68zz90zz72zvioz77zoz84zz66z">from several individuals and organizations. To learn more, see <a href="http://libregraphicsmeeting.org/2019/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">libregraphicsmeeting.org/2019/</a>"</span></div><div id="m_-1897241623314432530gmail-magicdomid74" class="m_-1897241623314432530gmail-ace-line"><br></div><div id="m_-1897241623314432530gmail-magicdomid75" class="m_-1897241623314432530gmail-ace-line"><span class="m_-1897241623314432530gmail-author-a-wz78z695iz68zz90zz72zvioz77zoz84zz66z">- An image or set of images that uses the Google logo, any other logos, and communicates the above statement visually shall be included for 3 seconds, at the start of 2 short promotional videos about the 2018 event and the 2019 event, subject to design approval by Google before publication.</span></div><div class="m_-1897241623314432530gmail-ace-line"><span class="m_-1897241623314432530gmail-author-a-wz78z695iz68zz90zz72zvioz77zoz84zz66z"><br></span></div><div class="m_-1897241623314432530gmail-ace-line"><span class="m_-1897241623314432530gmail-author-a-wz78z695iz68zz90zz72zvioz77zoz84zz66z">----------</span></div><div class="m_-1897241623314432530gmail-ace-line"><span class="m_-1897241623314432530gmail-author-a-wz78z695iz68zz90zz72zvioz77zoz84zz66z"><br></span></div><div class="m_-1897241623314432530gmail-ace-line"><span class="m_-1897241623314432530gmail-author-a-wz78z695iz68zz90zz72zvioz77zoz84zz66z">Dave - hopefully I didn't butcher anything in translation, but if this is ok with Dave/Google, then we (GIMP) are ok.<br></span></div><div class="m_-1897241623314432530gmail-ace-line"><span class="m_-1897241623314432530gmail-author-a-wz78z695iz68zz90zz72zvioz77zoz84zz66z">I don't think I've messed it up, but in case I did and a GIMPer has a chance to read this, please let me know asap.<br></span></div><div class="m_-1897241623314432530gmail-ace-line"><span class="m_-1897241623314432530gmail-author-a-wz78z695iz68zz90zz72zvioz77zoz84zz66z"><br></span></div>
</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 1:36 PM Frank Trampe <<a href="mailto:frank.trampe@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">frank.trampe@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I missed the first part of the discussion and cannot report definitively on its results. It would be nice if somebody with the full log could post. Given the rapidly approaching deadline on the printing, I reraise my proposal to print materials subject to pending deadlines with the assumption that we will reach a deal on Google sponsorship.<br><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 10:51 AM Dave Crossland <<a href="mailto:dave@lab6.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">dave@lab6.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">I'm discussing this on #lgm now</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, May 6, 2019, 11:33 AM Frank Trampe <<a href="mailto:frank.trampe@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">frank.trampe@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">At this point, the matter of the sponsorship is essentially out of our hands. We can't seem to accept it without a waiver from the GIMP team, and, on the flip side, I don't think that we would oppose any deal reached between the GIMP team and Google. It also seems to me that we are still some distance from any deal, as the GIMP team still need to decide in general terms, as a group, what is acceptable as a prerequisite to forging a specific deal.<div><br><div></div><div>In the interest of keeping options open, I would propose that we include Google branding on any materials that must be finalized prior to the conclusion of the GIMP/Google negotiations. I'm not sure how others feel, but I would be much happier giving away free logo space on a printed program than foreclosing on the opportunity to cover travel costs this year. Unless there is some breakthrough in the negotiations, I think that this is the decision on our plate today.</div></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 4:41 AM Aude Poilroux <ap@k8.design> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Dear everyone,<div><br></div><div>we need urgently a decision under which conditions we can accept the Google sponsoring. Since communication items such as the LGM poster will be printed tomorrow, <b>we need a final decision today</b>.</div><div><br></div><div>If the LGM community does not accept the Google sponsoring, we will have to recalculate the general budget and see which budgets cuts are still possible (quite a lot of financial issues have already been negotiated and accepted, google sponsoring will be mainly used for travel cost reimbursement and communication costs).</div><div><br></div><div>Thank you for your quick answer</div><div><br></div><div>Best regards</div><div><br></div><div>Aude - for the local organisation team<br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="m_-1897241623314432530gmail-m_-6255441272759747764gmail-m_-1327642847783097631m_-1634128517990501640gmail-m_2398722503001275017gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><br><div>Aude Poilroux<br>Projektmanagerin<br><i>Coordination, Gestion de projets<br></i>K8 Institut für strategische Ästhetik<br>Keplerstr. 3-5<br>D-66117 Saarbrücken<br><font color="#1155cc"><a href="http://www.k8.design/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">www.k8.design</a></font></div><div><font color="#1155cc">Tel: +49 681 84 492 069<br></font><span style="color:rgb(17,85,204)">Mobil: +49 176 228 228 63</span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Am Fr., 3. Mai 2019 um 18:29 Uhr schrieb Jehan <<a href="mailto:jehan@girinstud.io" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">jehan@girinstud.io</a>>:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hi!<br>
<br>
First of all, thanks for the various subsequent emails. It seems that <br>
the issue is well understood and appreciated by most (i.e. the issue <br>
**not** being that we want some kind of unique recognition or a <br>
GIMP-branded video 🙄).<br>
<br>
On 2019-05-03 21:11, Dave Crossland wrote:<br>
> Hi<br>
> <br>
> It seems this was discussed on 4th of March on irc, if anyone has the<br>
> link to the public irclog that might be helpful.<br>
> <br>
> I found a chat log with me and Soenke where we discussed this on that<br>
> day, please find attached screenshot. My second draft that I posted<br>
> yesterday is based on the idea posed to me in that chat.<br>
> <br>
> My intent was never a "permanantly visible logo", like an overlay all<br>
> over the length of the video;<br>
<br>
Yeah I understood that is not what was asked. For the record, I would <br>
have been completely against this!<br>
<br>
> it was always a slide with either just<br>
> Google, or all the sponsors, at the start/end of each video for a few<br>
> seconds.<br>
<br>
I would not agree with a slide with Google logo only personally unless <br>
it could be made in a very unintrusive way (but really, I don't see <br>
how). Basically this event is not called "Google Libre Graphics Meeting" <br>
and I certainly don't want a single big company to seemingly get <br>
"ownership" of the events just because they give big money. Our "souls" <br>
are not for sale.<br>
<br>
Now I would find fair a page with **all** the corporate sponsors with a <br>
clear text explaining these are events sponsor. Though I think this page <br>
could only be at the end with the credits (I would find it quite <br>
oppressive at the start, still for the same reason).<br>
<br>
Now this is only my personal vote, not GIMP decision. This would have to <br>
be discussed with the others first and considering our last vote, I <br>
believe this may not go this way.<br>
<br>
> I sponsor a number of type design community events around the world,<br>
> any this is the typical sponsor benefit; it's worked both ways (solo<br>
> logo, multi logos) in the past for other events.<br>
> <br>
> Anyway, if the gimp team wants the Google logo only on the website and<br>
> printed programme, not any videos associated with LGM, please let us<br>
> know :)<br>
<br>
We'll discuss this and tell you, I guess.<br>
<br>
Jehan<br>
<br>
> Cheers<br>
> Dave<br>
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