[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 121596] New: Writer do not comply with the basic grammar rules in Spain (Unicode 200A Thin Space - Thousands separator)

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121596

            Bug ID: 121596
           Summary: Writer do not comply with the basic grammar rules in
                    Spain (Unicode 200A Thin Space - Thousands separator)
           Product: LibreOffice
           Version: unspecified
          Hardware: All
                OS: All
            Status: UNCONFIRMED
          Severity: enhancement
          Priority: medium
         Component: Writer
          Assignee: libreoffice-bugs at lists.freedesktop.org
          Reporter: mrmister001 at gmail.com

PROBLEM: LibreOffice Writer do not comply with the basic orthography in
Spanish, regulations from 2010

The regulation in question is available here, in Spanish
https://preview.ibb.co/e9T7qV/RAE1.jpg

Translated into english the regulation state very clearly that, to separate the
thousands in figures, is necessary to insert a "THIN SPACE" between the groups
of 3 numbers. 

Example:

With a normal Space:
4 727 174

The space you saw above is a standard space, the same space you get when
pressing the space bar in your keyboard.

*** However, the regulations in Spanish forces you to use a thiner space than a
normal space or hard space. *** This is a thin space:


With thin Space (Unicode 200A)
4 727 174

*** As you may see there is a huge difference between the normal and thin
space. ***

Without any Space
4727174

This is a thin space:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thin_space

This is a normal or standard space (the same you get when pressing the space
bar)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_(punctuation)

To see the differences among a normal, thin and long space, please, see this
picture:
https://preview.ibb.co/jhvRjq/RAE2.jpg

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SUGGESTED SOLUTION:
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LibrOffice writer should be able to insert different kind of spaces when
pressing spacebard on the keyboard with a combination of keys.
The proposed combination is as follows

Spacebar ----------> Insert a normal space
Ctrl + Spacebar ---> Insert a thin space 
Alt + Spacebar ----> Insert a EN space

Note to the programmers: The spaces can be inserted easily just using the
Unicode code. Basically is necessary to create a combination of keys associated
to the spacebar that insert the unicode code for thin space, EN space, etc.

More space combinations could be obtained by playing the combination of keys:
Alt + Shift + Spacebar, Tab + Spacebar, Ctrl + Alt + Spacebar

A list of the Unicode spaces are here:
--------------------------------------

http://jkorpela.fi/chars/spaces.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitespace_character#Hair_spaces_around_dashes


REMINDER TO THE LIBREOFFICE COMMUNITY
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As you may know LibreOffice is being adopted by many governments in the world,
and they are switching to the Open Source software. In Spain the government is
paying special attention to follow the basic rules of grammar, so I consider
this enhancement is absolutely necessary and IT IS NOT just an "asthetic
matter".

Not accepting this enhancement or considering it just as non-important imply
going against the basic grammar rules. Please, have that in mind before taking
any decission.

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