[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 122255] Notebook bar, tabbed UI, Empty group with dropdown menu for Review tab in Writer with German UI

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=122255

--- Comment #7 from andreas_k <kainz.a at gmail.com> ---
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how the review tab look in english and german language

Here is the difference between german and english. the english review tab
didn't need 1280 px but in german it need way more space cause labels are way
longer in german than in english.

The HIG for tabbed layout is that you group the commands into tabbs and cause
you have than more space for each tabb, the commands get in addition to the
icon labels. This improve the usability cause you have not only an icon for an
not that often used command, you also get the label. But when you add labels,
than the UI is different between different languages. However this is an UI
decission of the UI layout and I think have icons and labels is an huge benefit
for the tabbed NB.

That's also the reason why on the home tab there are less labels, cause on the
hometab you have the most common used actions which mean you will remember the
icon cause you need them more often.

About the resizing, yes the resizing is different to MSO ribbons. In
LibreOffice the resizing is really simple, from right to left always on group
will be hidden after the other behind an arrow. so the empty space when one
group was hidden or not can be huge, when the group is huge. So I look close
that the groups are not to big. So if you find an large group (more than 4
commands) let me know, than I will make the group smaller. In the Review tab
example two groupes will be hidden with german language. the right group is
only ONE command and the next group are two commands so I can't make the group
smaller.

MSO will show/hide the labels depend on the application window wide, this have
the benefit that you can show way longer all commands, but on the other side
the UI will jump around and sometimes some commands will be grouped into one
drop down menu. I prefer as it is now in LibO (but yes, the system can be
improved).

So the solution will be:
- review the translation label lenght. As fare as I know the HIG say also to
have short command labels (cause it's easier and faster to read, will help also
the menubar entries)
- if there are big groupes, make them smaller, at least the very right once
groupes should be smaller
- make instead of the hidden group arrow ">" two arrows ">>" like it is in
standard toolbar layout when an icon was hidden.

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