[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 131920] Full text highlight + shading support

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=131920

--- Comment #7 from Bart <bart-dn at tushmail.com> ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #6)
> Which won't happen again. Your proposal looks like a tremendous amount of
> work to fix the issues of Microsoft. Do you think it's needed given the
> Theme Shading is not that hard to find in MSO?
Heiko, you are right. I see that this is a Microsoft issue. When I look into it
deeper, Microsoft is confusing me more than once. 

But for LibreOffice, maybe that's also a nice opportunity to do better, and to
persuade some users over? ;-)

My hope as a user now, is that the LibreOffice help text can explain what I
need to do for a specific result. I'm not here to cause a lot of work for
others. If that's welcome and needed, I'll be happy to make a draft. I don't
know what the help texts contains now, because I can't see them. I'm super
sorry for writing this, but please check Bug 131988. If I made a mistake there,
I'll be happy to hear. (PS: I wish I had not used "crystal clear" there. It's
too strong.)

   I wonder if the next part is useful information for
   a long-term solution and maybe for help texts as well:

I rebooted my computer and ran Windows.

I first tried Word 2002.

In Word 2002 shading is found under "Format -> Borders and Shading -> Shading".
(I added screen copy "Word2002BordersAndShading.png") For me, "Borders and
Shading" is typical for tables and cells and I didn't have any of those in my
document. That's why I initially ignored "Borders and Shading". That again is
why I couldn't find "Shading" for regular text. (That's confusing nr. I, not
just for me, but for other users of Word 2002 as well. Am I right that  users
now have to pay monthly or yearly for Office 365? That's why I expect many
users to stick to the version that they have, OR to move to LibreOffice.)

Then I started Word 2010.

In Word 2010 "Highlight" is found in the "Font" group. But to my surprise,
"Shading" is found in the "Paragraph" group. (Confusing nr. II) (Heiko, you
already showed this, thanks.)

The balloon text calls it "Shading", but just above the color palette I see
"Theme Colors". They're using different terminology for the same thing? (That's
confusing nr. III)

Further down in the box I see "Standard" colors. Is that different terminology
for something that's found elsewhere, or is that something new? Or do "Shaded"
colors fall apart into "Theme" colors and "Standard" colors? (Confusing nr. IV)

I also found that "Shading" colors (= "Theme Colors" ?) are updated in Word
when switching to a different theme, while "Highlighting" colors are not
updated when switching to another theme. Maybe this is why "Highlight" is found
in the "Font" group, while "Shading" is found in the "Paragraph" group?

(All these questions are rhetorical, feel free to ignore them. ;-) )

Apply shading to words or paragraphs :
https://support.office.com/en-us/article/Apply-shading-to-words-or-paragraphs-2020D0E0-F99E-4D53-A895-009077CBCFDA

I should also have MS Office 97, Office 2000, Office 2003, Office 2006, Office
2007 and Office 2013. I'm perfectly willing to check those too, but only if we
need to know how these versions work. Installing several versions side-by-side
doesn't always work.

I would like to start to make a summary of all the terminology that I just
found, and describe what each term means. That is, if that hasn't been done
yet.

Most of all I hope that this last part is useful information for a longer-term
solution. ;-)

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