[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 135501] Change the default UI

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=135501

--- Comment #54 from Telesto <telesto at surfxs.nl> ---
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #53)
> (In reply to Telesto from comment #52)
> 
> > (In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #6)
> > > No this is pragmatic--the MUFFIN Tabbed NB only looks like the MS Ribbon UI
> > > it does not implement that API.
> > 
> > I'm not all know in feature richness of the Ribbon interface. So what are
> > you exactly pointing too? Live Preview? Or also other things?
> 
> Have a look, the MS Ribbon Class [1] is fully implemented API for GUI
> development in source (or for user scripted GUI customization). Every facet
> of the MS Ribbon UI is directly programmable for UWP or DWM use, and then
> integrates well with other MS Windows controls.

If with they tabbed bar certain unrealistic expectations are raised
automatically, it might be a problem. OTOH, if people dislike simply they the
UI it would solve a problem. And this is delivered by the beloved competitors
too (excluding MS Office). Do the competitors have real Ribbon, Or are those
also superficial imitations (Didnt' check) And I really don't know what people
look for.. a similar layout or similar functioning. There must be quite a group
who doesn't use the 'advanced' programmable stuff. They only want something
what they have seen before

And there is quite some time spend on all those interfaces already :-). So my
impression is that not so many resources are needed to finalize it; being a
tabbed toolbar (not Ribbon). Without the intention of becoming a Ribbon in the
short or mid term. 

I do know that some people are complaining about 'LibreOffice' looking like
they '90's. And this might cause the impression of LibreOffice being dated. Not
sure how large the whole group is assessing it this way.

However there surely a need to prevent the wrong expectations arising
(expectation management). This can partly be solved by some additional lines in
the Release notes explaining... 

But sure, there are many sides to this. If opted for tabbed, it really should
be over the full line.. So including Linux (on any environment). If Linux
distro's want to tweak it, fine.. but the TDF release should be the same for
all environments.. (Screenshot on the internet and documentation etc)..

Pre-requisite are surely a11y support, nice aesthetics and proper
documentation, IMHO. And it should be more or less bug free of course.

Fortunately it's not up to me ;-). It's surely not simple yes/no answer. There
a pro/cons.   My wish list (or should I say reported bug list/regression list)
is pretty long. I would love (some of) those being fixed.. Even before new
features are added. 

Anyhow I see no objection for a (temporal) experiment on Master and/or Beta 1
and 2 and maybe one or 2 RC's. Simple to see what happens..

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