[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 135501] Change the default UI (see comment 67)

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=135501

--- Comment #82 from John Mills <jmills59 at yahoo.com> ---
(In reply to ajlittoz from comment #81)
> Very long, didn't read the whole thread. My opinion may then be biased.
> 
> I'm afraid that all this discussion about the "ideal" UI to be elected as
> the default one misses the real point.
> 
> UI is not the target in an application. The target is the usefulness of
> application purpose and UI is only a tool to serve this usefulness.
> 
> What is the chore of LO and its distinctive power feature? Styles.
> 
> Styles are present in Writer, Calc, Impress and Draw at different level of
> abstraction and power.
> 
> Style usage should be encouraged by all means because they are the key to
> full LO power. When you must review and reformat a sophisticated document,
> the task is overwhelming if direct formatting was the base of the workflow.
> 
> IMHO, M$ Office-like UIs are wrong because:
> 
> 1 - they lead to the "intuitive application control" syndrome making users
> falsely think they master the application
> 
> 2 - they encourage direct formatting because the alternative style control
> is not that obvious (and styles are far less developed in the competition)
> 
> 3 - being immediately accessible, they postpone the need to read the Guides
> 
> The net result is a tremendous number of angry questions on AskLO from users
> ranting that LO is not M$ Office.
> 
> In my point of view, LO doesn't offer yet a full original style-oriented UI.
> In Writer, the paragraph styles sit in the toolbar with their own menu but
> character, frame, page and list are not there. You must display the side
> style pane and selecting one non-paragraph style requires first to click on
> an icon to change the displayed list.
> 
> As a long-time advocate of styles, I find this is not the correct way to
> push users towards styling.
> 
> The present status (with a menu View>User Interface>…choices… seems to me a
> good trade-off. It is hidden just the correct level so that a curious user
> discovers the trick and the lazy user is doomed to learn new ways of doing
> its job.

We need to be more mature that calling Microsoft, M$ it just demeans the whole
conversation and shows an obvious bias.

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