[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 133087] provide GUI function to open a template for editing

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=133087

sebalis <lisken at math.uni-bielefeld.de> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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         Resolution|WORKSFORME                  |---
             Status|RESOLVED                    |UNCONFIRMED

--- Comment #2 from sebalis <lisken at math.uni-bielefeld.de> ---
Hi, thanks for responding and for even providing a video – given that I talk
about internals such as registrymodifications.xcu you could well have assumed
that I know the settings well enough to understand a description in text form.
:-)

I do admit that you have found some way of having the GUI offer my template for
editing even if it is not stored in the regular templates folder. But this is
completely infeasible and I hope I can explain why. I discard the second part
of your answer because that involves moving the file to the templates folder –
I was specifically asking about a file in a folder related to what I called a
project so this part of your answer circumvents the premise that the template
is not the templates folder.

I am talking about a template that is stored in a folder that is related to
actual work that I am doing – which is why I used the word “project”. This is a
folder containing files I work on in relation to a certain task, which I am
only actively using for a few days perhaps and maybe again a few weeks later.
You are suggesting that I make LibreOffice consider that folder more like a
configuration folder. In a normal user situation, these quite distinct parts of
the file system.

I may only need to open this template from a project folder a few times. I may
have to instruct someone else to do the opening. It is simply not appropriate
to change my configuration each time I want to open a template for editing. It
is not right to have to configure each such folder as a folder for LibreOffice
to discover new templates. In the scenario where I pass the file on to others
for editing it becomes a very difficult support situation.

As an additional issue, you don’t seem to have gone the whole way and actually
make a new template appear in templates, edit it, and then get back to the
original state. I now have, several times – it was a terrible and unreliable
user experience.

The setting you mention is where LibreOffice discovers “new” templates to add
to its collection. The template appears in that collection and there is no
immediate way of making it disappear again. One such way, finding it in the
template manager and choosing “Delete“, actually deletes the file. I’ve
experienced that while working with my actual template collection (because I
renamed some of them) and was lucky to have a backup. Imagine the support
issues involving that. This bug report is about a template that I want to edit
a few times. It simply is not feasible to change my configuration and then
worry how to change it back each time. Also, strictly speaking what you are
suggesting is an abuse of that function because you are supposed to add folders
there which contain several templates for continued use, possibly divided into
subfolders. A folder that contains day-to-day work is not that kind of folder.
Also, at the time of writing I have added my example folder to the Paths
setting a third or fourth time and cannot get LibreOffice to rediscover the
template file in it, although it worked earlier and the file is still there
(thank goodness). I have given up for the time being and hope that the template
will magically appear again, at which time I will finally remove my example
folder from the paths setting again.

So while I have to congratulate you for finding *some* GUI process of offering
that template to me via the GUI, I also have to say that your answer does not
seem to have seen my issue from the user’s perspective at all, and neither has
it thought the whole process through. I was trying to talk about a one-time
kind of way of opening a template for editing. Please do not consider this
issue as resolved – it is not resolved in any way.

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