[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 135110] ENHANCEMENT: Right Click context menu in the style inspector to modify style

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Thu Oct 15 13:02:54 UTC 2020


https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=135110

--- Comment #17 from Telesto <telesto at surfxs.nl> ---
(In reply to Mike Kaganski from comment #16)
> So it all is not so simple as "give me that innocent-looking tool NOW!!!!".
> It all needs consideration.

I personally don't like they way of bring this message. It's a kind of
tendentious. We (me an Thomas) are put in category/ group of (evil)
complainers.

We simply put forward our impressions, to be taken into careful consideration.
And it's bend in away which feels we asking the unreasonable thing 

Or you actually feel it as if we are 'demanding' it. Or this is more a
communication style (to make a point). However with a - in my opinion -
misplaced tone/ communication style. They message could be packed differently
without unnecessary implying things (init's counter productive). 

This is 'proper' strategy to agitate/offend people. This direct to the comment
here 

However, this is rather common habit around here (TDF organisation). Somehow
attacking/offending people, making it personal etc, is somehow a structural
part of the arsenal. Or people are simply not realizing how might be conceived
by others.

This happens at lower levels (say QA comments of behavior), but by members of
BoD (comments https://sophy.ca/). It has an aura of frustrations sarcasm around
it :-). Ever critic/ responds read and handled as personal attack without
tolerance. There is no room for 'naive' people. However naive me doesn't now
they forces in place creating and sustaining this mentality. 

I actual think this being a symptom of huge underlying problem at TDF. So the
actual personal is pretty nice guy or girl. However somehow overwhelmed
overpowered, frustrated which causes to respond in certain way.
And with this response others will respond also less friendly (or even
sarcastically). Which confirms they nice guy/girl to the world is bad, and he
has to defend himself with all means necessary (including hitting below the
belt, sabotaging). Creating a bad vibe

If people want to attract new contributors this has to stop. For me they TDF
community equals to a group of grumpy people already. Not all they time, but in
quite a number of occurrences. I'm already surprised if someone saying
something 'nice' or at least not burning me to ground (if forget a step or my
report containing the bare minimum; where I assume are thinking likely myself
(so problem being totally obvious) 

And no, surely not everyone being guilty of the behavior above. And yes
everybody has can overreact once in a while. But it's far to common here. And I
expect even slightly more from they professionals. 

And this might reduce the number of internal struggles and fights.

[I think I post this on the mailing list too :-) As the latter part is pretty
off-topic here.]

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