[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 137236] Chapter, Filename and Template should be be shown in "Select" frame not "Format" frame in Fields dialog - Document tab

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=137236

--- Comment #12 from sdc.blanco at youmail.dk ---
(In reply to Sascha Z from comment #10)
> Well, not all that is inside the Format-list is actually a format-variation.
> So we have to chose one-by-one. My suggestion so far:
Speaking now only about Document tab.

1. Usually "format" is showing only (familiar) controls for time, date, and
number, with an additional format option (for time and date).  (This makes
sense)

2. Moving all the different file and chapter (heading) variations into Select
also makes sense.

It is a psychological problem of UI, not a logical problem of trying to find a
consistent category system  (especially when speaking about fields, right
Mike?).

3.  Mike argues that "Name" and "Initials" are "two pieces of information".
But we can also say that "filename" and "path" are two pieces of information.

4. Honestly -- when is the last time you have thought about the "format" of a
file name?  Functionally filename, filename with path, filename w/o extension
can be treated as different kinds of information (Same point with headings).
(why force a user or programmer into trying to decide this philosophical
problem about when it is a format and when it is a select? -- the options are
limited to four, or six in the case of template -- and not likely to increase
-- much easier to just move them to Select.)


Just to underline the arbitrariness of trying to follow a "logical" system
here:
Consider Mike's example with "Author" type and "name" and "initials" being two
pieces of information.  

One could also argue that "name" and "initials" are just two formats, because,
"There's no choice where to take the information from; only how to present it"

It is just an accident that LO implementation allows a user to give arbitrary
initials, independently of First/Last name.  If the software automatically
determined the initials from the First and Last Name in User Data, then on
Mike's logic, Name and Initials should be moved to Format.  Logically correct. 
Functionally dubious.

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