[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 136348] Too many ways of setting page styles

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136348

Telesto <telesto at surfxs.nl> changed:

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--- Comment #4 from Telesto <telesto at surfxs.nl> ---
(In reply to Justin L from comment #3)
> 3.) necessary - it is a paragraph property.

-> A topic which will keep confusing me for ever ;-). As I don't grasp they
concept of paragraph style regulating page style. Do get the concept if I want
to use it. However I sometimes simple intend to rotate the page (where I don't
need it to be regulated by the paragraph). But he, that's me  

The whole page style business is even more confusing for the first page, where
the blue bar is missing (in my mental idiotic mental world the blue header bar
is linked 'page setting'. See 8. So setting page style for page 1 has always
been even more problematic.  

Format -> Page Style only allows to configure the next page. And inserting a
page break at the first and single page with a page style sounds kind of silly.
I'm this might make sense in developer reasoning/logic. It's kind of counter
intuitive if you ask me. And is of course partly a dialog problem. Same dialog
reused over and over.. So I do understand where this coming from.

> 8.) shortcut to paragraph property. Helps people find it who don't know it
> is a paragraph property. Seems really logical to have it here.

-> It need to be there.. see before :-). And 

> 12.) Of course, any paragraph property can also be set in a paragraph style.
> Especially useful for things like title styles that always want to start on
> a new page.

Me complaining about amount of dialogs; isn't saying there an not useful :-).
It's more the 'same'/ similar setting is being distributed all over the place. 

> 20.) This is a completely different kind of thing.  This is a first/follow
> idea which has completely different uses from a hard-coded page break. This
> kind of idea is essential for interoperability with MS Formats which can
> define different page styles pretty much anywhere on the page.

This may be a total different concept, however they "with page style" setting
(say Index) lands in "Organizer tab" next page style. When pressing CTRL+Enter
a new page will be added with page style 'Index' based on "Organizer tab" which
inherited by "with page style" paragraph setting. So those concepts are linked. 

If you change the Next Page Style in the organizer tab to say Default Page, a
new page will be introduced. The page style isn't defined in 'paragraph style' 
with page style (not enabled). Not based on "with page style" of the previous
page, but based on the Page style in the "Organizer tab".

They most counter intuitive part being page style being set on the previous
page. This probably works working from bottom to top. However if you intend
insert some say landscape somewhere, later on.. What should I use. Page Style
Next style? Or Paragraph Style with style?

This maybe might make all sense in a developer point of view, but at some point
I'm losing track :-)

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