[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 136348] Too many ways of setting page styles (to portrait)

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136348

--- Comment #6 from Justin L <jluth at mail.com> ---
(In reply to Telesto from comment #4)
> Format -> Page Style only allows to configure the next page.

OK - true as long as you are thinking of this "section" of pages. If you are
thinking in relation to a specific paragraph, then you will get confused by the
results. This has nothing to do with "where the cursor currently is" next page.

> > 12.) Of course, any paragraph property can also be set in a paragraph style.
> > Especially useful for things like title styles that always want to start on
> > a new page.
> 
> Me complaining about amount of dialogs. It's more the 'same'/ similar setting is being distributed all over the place. 

I don't see this being any different than setting bold - via direct formatting,
via character styles, or via paragraph style. It is all the same concept, so it
should use the same dialog.

The main difference from a comparison with "bold" is that there are two ways to
define a page-style change - the paragraph's page break and the page style's
one-page-follows-the-next-page - which is the same idea as one-paragraph-styles
switches to the next like Header changes to TextBody on a CR. 

> > 20.) This is a completely different kind of thing.  This is a first/follow
> > idea which has completely different uses from a hard-coded page break. This
> > kind of idea is essential for interoperability with MS Formats which can
> > define different page styles pretty much anywhere on the page.
> 
> This may be a total different concept, however they "with page style"
> setting (say Index) lands in "Organizer tab" next page style. When pressing
> CTRL+Enter a new page will be added with page style 'Index' based on
> "Organizer tab" which inherited by "with page style" paragraph setting. So
> those concepts are linked.

Sure. One defines WHAT will happen and the other defines WHEN it happens.

> The most counter intuitive part being page style being set on the previous
> page. This probably works working from bottom to top. However if you intend
> insert some say landscape somewhere, later on.. What should I use. Page
> Style Next style? Or Paragraph Style with style?

Yup - I agree. This is the hardest to wrap the mind around - although it makes
perfect sense. This works top-to-bottom, with top being defines as the most
recent hard-page-break.

In your example, you want to change the layout at a specific location based on
the content, so that by definition means a hard page break. (paragraph property
break with style)

P.S. Never use the page-style's first/follow for compatibility reasons.

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