[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 135871] Highlighting no fill is not the same as no fill; there is still direct formatting present according to paragraph style

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=135871

--- Comment #48 from Mike Kaganski <mikekaganski at hotmail.com> ---
(In reply to Telesto from comment #45)
> I'm not a heavy user. I'm only give my opinion based on what I have noticed.
> However, you should ask people who actually are correcting formatting and
> how often they need to do that. And if this a cumbersome job etc. 

And I have ten years of experience using MS Office, and then another ten years
of experience using, deploying LibreOffice in a real commercial company;
training people; creating templates; helping them solve problematic situations
related to creating new documents with really complex text formatting (see GOST
21 at [1]), and to documents received from those using MS Office; and sending
our documents to parties using MS Office, etc. That was prior (and the reason)
to my joining development of LO.

Don't assume that your opponents have no clue what real users use and what
problems they see.

> I'm more they type of experiments.. Worse what can happen is a 'revert' (and
> some wasted time/ money developing it). However we get feedback/ and data/
> experiences. Not that ever idea has to become an experiment.. arguments are
> fine.. but some point 'experiences' matter. 

As I already stated: this is bad. Any "battle-testing" would only attract
people who have problems with the change, and only part of those. The people
would be vocal; the reports would never show you how many have benefitted; how
many have problems with the change (only would show how loud those who report
are).

And in this special case, your proposal for battle-testing is even worse. You
are making a change that presumably might (I say will) hurt those who are the
beginners, those who might as well assume their problems are due to them being
newbies. Such a change would hurt them, but would not result in proportional
increase of reports - only in proportional abandoning the tool that was tested,
and proven not suitable.

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