[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 140702] It disappeared "To page" item from Anchor drop-down widget on Frame toolbar in Writer

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=140702

--- Comment #11 from Tomasz Sztejka <sztejkat at yahoo.com> ---
1. The last time I checked "To Page" was still present IN HELP. If option was
removed or hidden it should be noted in HELP that it moved to an another place.

2. I was using it every time I needed to anchor large, 90% page sized image to
a page and never ever let it move when text flows around it.

Without it reverting to old school HTML solution: "put it in a table" is
necessary and it is a rather bad solution. In generic there was always a pain
when You had to place many LARGE images on page all anchored to same paragraph.
Adding hard page break without "to page" was only sometimes helpful. 

I must admit however that it was in a past and I'm doing that this way now
because it was proven to always work. Maybe other anchors do work good now, I
don't know. Yet just few hours ago I still have seen images anchored to same
paragraph getting one over another at any text edit, so I don't think it is a
case.

3. (see 135836) No sane person expects that cross format conversion is done
perfectly. It never is and never will be. This is why people do use different
formats: because they do things better in some specific cases. 

The statement  that Word can't do it can be also turned into a statement:
"Discourage fonts because Notepad can't do it". LibreOffice was far BETTER than
Word for many years. It should not try to step back. Blah... it should NOT even
try to follow anything what Word does. In my personal experience many changes
made in Word are counter-productive. Don't follow them.

4. Nobody I asked could find where this option is now (in some tabs in some
dialogs accessible from some context menu, ten clicks away). The user interface
is now inconsistent. If there is an "Anchor" menu it should be consistent in
terms of functionality across the entire application. Otherwise we have to
think... hmmm... is that Anchor sub-menu in context menu the same Anchor as in
toolbar? Maybe... maybe not. Or maybe we can try some other dialogs and options
to check if there is an another menu with exactly the same name but different
content? 

Geezzz... Try teaching somebody to use it.

5. Removing options which were there for Years is always a bad choice. Yes, I
know it was not removed. It was hidden in such a way so that You could not find
it. 

6. If we can agree that  the rationale that "To page" was incorrectly specified
or that the Word can't do it is right, then a proper way of fixing it is:

   a) make a clean specification and put in in HELP;

   b) make a motion for a DOCX to start supporting it.

Best regards,
  Tomasz Sztejka.

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