[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 140058] New: Considerations about improving UI for Bullets and Numbering (as DF) and List Styles

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            Bug ID: 140058
           Summary: Considerations about improving UI for Bullets and
                    Numbering (as DF) and List Styles
           Product: LibreOffice
           Version: 7.2.0.0.alpha0+ Master
          Hardware: All
                OS: All
            Status: UNCONFIRMED
          Severity: enhancement
          Priority: medium
         Component: Writer
          Assignee: libreoffice-bugs at lists.freedesktop.org
          Reporter: sdc.blanco at youmail.dk

Enhancement / UI development request.

The following examples demonstrate the currently implemented LO behavior (using
the labels as of 1. Feb 2021), along with explanations for what is being
observed.

Please try the examples. Then there are two question at the end about possible
UI/UX improvements for using Lists, in light of these examples.

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Example 1

Copy text between dashed lines to a New document, so you can have the
instructions to follow, while using the text of those instructions for the
examples.
Select the lines in this list under Example 1 and Apply direct bulleted list
formatting (Shift+F12)
Place cursor in list (e.g., second line), right click, and choose "Bullets and
Numbering > Bullet List"

Actual result:  item will move to right margin, keeping its bullet
Explanation:  "List 1"  (Bullet • List Style) is assigned to "Bullet List" in
the context menu, so choosing "Bullet List" has now applied that list style to
the selected item (as seen in Styles Inspector).

Example 2
Right-click the just-created "List 1" item in the list, choose "Bullets and
Numbering > Bullets and Numbering",  then Numbering tab, and choose any
numbering scheme.

Actual Result:  the "bulleted" item changes to a numbered item.
Explanation:  Direct formatting was just applied to that item that just got a
list style in Example 1.

Example 3

Place your cursor on this line, right-click, select "Bullets and Numbering > 
Bullet List"

Actual result:  the numbering scheme applied in the previous example will be
applied to this item.

Explanation:  Bullet List assigns the same list style, and its direct
formatting is carried further.

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(The same “trick„ can be done by starting with Numbering DF list, changing to a
Bullet scheme, and then later, when you try “Styles > Numbered List„, on a 
Default PS, a bulleted item will appear (but is a Numbering 123 List Style).

Issues for UXEval:

1.  Maybe “Text | Bullets and Numbering„ context menu should be called “Lists„ 

Reasons(s):  
  (a) more consistent with Character and Paragraph that appear just before,
  (b) most of the items in the context menu are List styles.

2. Given that mostly “List Styles„ are being shown in context menu for lists,
should the DF dialog “Bullets and Numbering„ be offered at all in the context
menu?  

Reason to be concerned: It applies direct formatting, without making clear that
it is "different" from the other context menu items, and can lead to creating
confusing situations (if you did not know about the underlying conceptual model
of lists in LO, and had the Style Inspector). 

Not an easy or obvious answer to this question.  
Character and Paragraph offer both “direct formatting„ and “edit style„
options.

Perhaps:
(a) add an “Edit Style„ option for Lists to this context menu.
(b) change label for “Bullets and Numbering„ to (e.g.,) “Modify list item„

Reason:  with an “edit style„ and a “modify„ in same context menu, there is a
better chance to be aware whether one is using DF or modifying a list style.

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