[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 143550] Gluepoints toolbar should be renamed Glue Points

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=143550

--- Comment #3 from Ross Johnson <ross.johnson at homemail.com.au> ---
There is also specific reference to the toolbar in the help repository:

source/text/simpress/guide/gluepoints.xhp:51:<paragraph role="paragraph"
id="par_id0919200803041160" xml-lang="en-US">Click the <emph>Insert Glue
Point</emph> icon on the Gluepoints toolbar.</paragraph>

There is detailed advice here:
https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/spelling-using-compound-words-guide/open-or-close-the-compound

Also from Merriam-Webster:
"Although the styling that ultimately takes hold for a compound may be
determined by nothing more than editorial preference, there is one pattern that
often holds true as new compounds become entrenched in English. Compound nouns
are usually written as one word, compound verbs are generally written as two,
and compound adjectives are very often written with a hyphen."

I could not find any advice on when it would be appropriate for closed
compounds to revert to open compounds, eg, such as when they appear as a label
in a menu etc.

"Gluepoint" is an example of what is called a compound word (duh). In this case
it is the noun "point" preceded by the modifying verb "glue", which together
form a noun.

Further searches for occurrences:

"gluepoint" and "gluepoints" appear at least this many times in sentences in
the help repository:

$ git grep -c ' gluepoint[s]* '
source/text/simpress/02/10030200.xhp:9
source/text/simpress/02/10100000.xhp:30
source/text/simpress/guide/gluepoints.xhp:3

"glue point" or "glue points" appear at least this many times in sentences in
the help repository:

$ git grep -c ' glue point[s]* '
source/text/sdraw/main0210.xhp:1
source/text/sdraw/main0503.xhp:1
source/text/sdraw/main_edit.xhp:1
source/text/simpress/02/13010000.xhp:1
source/text/simpress/guide/gluepoints.xhp:2
source/text/simpress/main0210.xhp:1

With "Glue Point" or "Glue Points" appearing at least this many times in the
help repository:

$ git grep -c 'Glue Point[s]*'
source/text/sdraw/main0210.xhp:1
source/text/simpress/00/00000402.xhp:1
source/text/simpress/02/10030200.xhp:16
source/text/simpress/02/13010000.xhp:4
source/text/simpress/guide/gluepoints.xhp:6
source/text/simpress/main0210.xhp:1
source/text/simpress/main_edit.xhp:2

As in:

source/text/simpress/02/10030200.xhp:32:<paragraph role="heading"
id="hd_id3149948" xml-lang="en-US" level="1"><variable id="gluepointsbar"><link
href="text/simpress/02/10030200.xhp">Glue Points Bar</link>

The capitalisation looks particularly awkward so I would argue the above should
be "Gluepoints Bar" as in the following:

source/text/simpress/guide/gluepoints.xhp:25:<title id="tit"
xml-lang="en-US">Using Gluepoints</title>

In general help body text the closed compound form predominates. Where it
appears in the open form it is mostly capitalised, eg, in headings.

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