[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 144296] Under-engineered and inconsistent overflow/extension direction choice incl. with cell edit mode

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=144296

--- Comment #11 from Eyal Rozenberg <eyalroz1 at gmx.com> ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #10)
> (In reply to Eyal Rozenberg from comment #8)
> > 1. You write "RTL" or "LTR", but - this is not always uniform. What if the
> > cell is RTL and the sheet/page is LTR?
> Same as for LTR: what counts is the cell.

You mean "same as the cell's internal direction". This is a legitimate choice,
but it is not a trivial/tautological choice.

> > 2. Should the alignment really not affect the direction of extension?
> Prob. I don't get this but reading direction inside/outside is the same for
> me. And again: what happens LTR should be the same on RTL.

To restate: If the text within the cell starts from the left edge (=
left-aligned), and extends towards the right edge of the cell - regardless of
its directionality - then it continues extending in the same direction after
reaching the cell boundary. I find this behavior in Excel quite pleasing, and
am now leaning towards recommending we also adopt it.

Please try the steps I listed above (2-7) with MS Excel, with different cell
directions and cell (horizontal) alignments, to experience this.

> > 3. ...what if the LO UI is RTL but the cell and sheet are LTR? 
> We had the discussion somewhere else. And it is unrelated to this issue
> regarding overflow.

It is related, because it is not necessarily the case that the direction of
overflow in cell edit mode is the same as after the edit is completed. That is
another UX choice to make. There is already some difference in how the cell
edit mode extends over other cells contents; in theory, it could extend in
another direction than the final result. I'm not saying that this is a great
choice; and in fact, if the "go by alignment rather than direction" approach is
chosen, then it seems to have no benefits; but if "go by direction" is chosen
for the non-cell-edit-box state of the cell, then it might make sense for
editing convenience.

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