[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 137125] DF Formatting moving around in unexpected way with copy/paste

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Wed Sep 15 22:58:35 UTC 2021


https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=137125

--- Comment #13 from Telesto <telesto at surfxs.nl> ---
(In reply to Mike Kaganski from comment #10)
> Totally agree. The idea of "let me do random stuff and invent expectations"
> is questionable; many specifics of behavior are introduced to benefit
> *specific* workflows, that deemed important enough; indeed, any behavior
> that looks natural in one workflow could be inconvenient in another. So
> every report should not be "Expected Results: No clue if correct ... I
> suggest ... I assume ..." without any evidence that this would be useful,
> but a discussion of a specific case where this is breaking one's real
> workflow. 

This kind of an issue of case by case (or incident based) bug reporting hitting
fundamental questions without a straight forward answer :-). I do observe
something I find 'extraordinary' or dislike in certain case.. I would be very
pretentious of me saying: this is wrong and should be XYZ if I'm aware that
there isn't a single answer and being a complicated topic.

I'm also well aware how delicate the matter of change (of (layout) code) is.
Not knowing in advance what will happen if it got changed. If the positive
aspect will outweigh the negative (in hindsight) in general. Or they change
ends up being a "can of worms.." which hunting the developer for ever ..

OTOH I not big fan of having "status quo" by unknowns. Innovation needs
'radical' change.  
Which ends up in lovely dilemma.  Rock or Hard place:
https://c.tenor.com/fDZOE4okO3EAAAAC/homer-simpsons.gif

I illustrate my doubts in the bug report.. I could have bluntly argued this
being totally broken. However it doesn't change much. Except someone would
point out, well this isn't that simple..

> And then, after investigating why is this behavior is introduced
> initially (if that was intentional, of course), the discussion would be
> about comparison of the workflows, their relative importance, and user
> experience.

I fully agree with steps described here. I really wish this being possible.
However I'm stuck at the operationalization aspects. How to inventorize
workflows. How to grade the relative importance respectively user experience
(and by who) 

Even after all those analysis you might still miss out something (overlooking
something; or something like emergence]. 

The assessment in advance brings us only so far (it's surely not a step to be
missed, but no panacea either). The ultimate test will always be the actual
implementation :-(. However this can again being perceived as experimenting of
the back of the end-user.. 

No clue what's the right think to do

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