[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 136495] Hard to insert a page with different in between pages without affecting page style of other pages

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136495

--- Comment #6 from Telesto <telesto at surfxs.nl> ---
Created attachment 175380
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Example file

(In reply to Dieter from comment #5)
> Perhaps it wold be useful to add information to following help page:
> https://help.libreoffice.org/7.3/en-GB/text/swriter/guide/page_break.
> html?&DbPAR=WRITER&System=WIN
> Some informations are provided here:
> https://help.libreoffice.org/7.3/en-GB/text/swriter/01/04010000.
> html?&DbPAR=WRITER&System=WIN

This probably more productive approach.. After reading you're comment I recall
nagged about this from different angels and with success various people
(UX/developers). 

I see inserting or changing an existing page from Portrait to Landscape (and
back) as the most common case 

Topics of most interest (from my perspective)
* Changing the first page to 'Landscape' where the next pages should be
Portrait
* Insert a new page, with different orientation between existing pages
* Change orientation of existing page in a document without affecting the reset

The issue being that you have multiple tools which look a good candidate at the
start, but don't work out as expected.

No go
* Format -> Page Style -> Page Tab -> Landscape (makes the default Landscape
* Format -> Page Style -> Organizer Tab -> Next Style -> Landscape (not
intended to be used; Word Model?
* Double clicking a page style inside sidebar with cursor some page -> Problem
of the scope of the change.. Not limited to single page but some range (if page
break has no explicit style, those will be included too)

Route A; Insert -> Manual Page break -> and using explicit page style was most
productive route.
Route B: CTRL+A Enter -> Soft break.  Next Format -> Paragraph -> Text flow tab
->  Check With page style -> Landscape 

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Side-kick
Another topic to include is DOCX conversion.. Defining a style for a page
explicitly creates pretty unworkable end result. Every page getting a unique
Style :-(; so Page Style Portrait applied to different pages becomes
"Converted1" for page 1 "Converted2" for page to " Converted 3" for page 3 and
so on. [Save attached file to DOCX; and look at Format -> Paragraph -> Text
flow tab. 

Consequence A: The usage of styles being ruined. There is no single page style
(Landscape) anymore where can change something which affects all pages with
same style (every page gets unique style] 
Consequence B: The generic name makes really uninformative what so special
about the style. [No clue if DOCX being capable to store style names; doesn't
look that way] LibO Page Style model isn't MSO approach :-(. And hell for
intercompatibility

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