<html> <head> <base href="https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/"> </head> <body> <div> <a class="bz_bug_link bz_status_NEW " title="NEW - Page numbers wizard" href="https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107181#c12">Comment # 12</a> on <a class="bz_bug_link bz_status_NEW " title="NEW - Page numbers wizard" href="https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107181">bug 107181</a> from <a class="email" href="mailto:rgb.mldc@gmail.com" title="RGB <rgb.mldc@gmail.com>"> RGB</a> <pre>(In reply to Marco A.G.Pinto from <a href="show_bug.cgi?id=107181#c11">comment #11</a>) > (In reply to Cor Nouws from <a href="show_bug.cgi?id=107181#c10">comment #10</a>) > > > > Nice checkbox :) > > Use of that hás to interfere with the applied page style, and you maybe want > > it not to appear if the header/footer is encounterd on a page > #1 ? > > Cor, it must appear not only on page #1, because theses (plural of thesis) > and books usually have two covers, the main and the page after it is also a > kind of cover without page number. > > In my dissertation (masters) and in my thesis (PhD) the first two pages > (covers) don't have numbers. The "use different content on first page" only works with the very first page of the document. If you need a more complex structure (the first number of pages without header nor footer, no header or footer on the first page of every chapter or different header/footer content on index pages, just to name a few examples) then you need to use a sequence of page styles, some of them associated with paragraph styles (for the second example, "Heading 1" apply a "page break, before" with a change to "First page" page style and "First page" is followed by some "Chapter body" page style). IMO, these tasks are too complex for a simple context menu. When you add (or delete) content from headers and footers you are actually modifying the current page style, and when you move from one style to another you need either a page break or a well defined style sequence: there is no such a thing as direct formatting for pages on Writer (and that's a good thing!). The way in which pages are handled by Writer is robust, logical and even easy... once you understand how the whole thing works. The problem here is that new users see they can add headers and footers from the Insert menu or even directly from the page itself and thus they think it's some kind of direct formatting, when it's not. They get quite confused when you say to them "no, you need to define everything about the page on the page style dialogue, except of course the header/footer content that needs to be done by hand on the page. But don't think you are doing direct formatting! You are not! That modify the page style too!" I've been explaining how to use Writer for the last decade (of course, not in the terms of the previous paragraph ;) ). In my experience page styles is, by far, the concept that users have more trouble with, and that's because the UI does not help to understand the concept. In fact it adds confusion.</pre> </div> <hr> You are receiving this mail because: <ul> <li>You are the assignee for the bug.</li> </ul> </body> </html>