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    <body><span class="vcard"><a class="email" href="mailto:vstuart.foote@utsa.edu" title="V Stuart Foote <vstuart.foote@utsa.edu>"> <span class="fn">V Stuart Foote</span></a>
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   title="UNCONFIRMED - Rulers ignore padding ("Spacing to Contents")"
   href="https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=111779">bug 111779</a>
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            <th>What</th>
            <th>Removed</th>
            <th>Added</th>
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           <td style="text-align:right;">Keywords</td>
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           <td>needsUXEval
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           <td style="text-align:right;">Status</td>
           <td>NEW
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           <td>UNCONFIRMED
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           <td style="text-align:right;">CC</td>
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           <td>libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org, vstuart.foote@utsa.edu
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           <td style="text-align:right;">Ever confirmed</td>
           <td>1
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           <td style="text-align:right;">Severity</td>
           <td>normal
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           <td>enhancement
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            <b><a class="bz_bug_link 
          bz_status_UNCONFIRMED "
   title="UNCONFIRMED - Rulers ignore padding ("Spacing to Contents")"
   href="https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=111779#c1">Comment # 1</a>
              on <a class="bz_bug_link 
          bz_status_UNCONFIRMED "
   title="UNCONFIRMED - Rulers ignore padding ("Spacing to Contents")"
   href="https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=111779">bug 111779</a>
              from <span class="vcard"><a class="email" href="mailto:vstuart.foote@utsa.edu" title="V Stuart Foote <vstuart.foote@utsa.edu>"> <span class="fn">V Stuart Foote</span></a>
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        <pre>Don't agree, the ruler is picking up the object. In text areas that is the
frame object holding the text or the page to margins. The ruler is more
commonly useful to adjust layout of the objects _including_ the padding.  

Measuring/fitting the width of just the text, or image, or fill is the
secondary use case would not be helpful as default.

Could see some use to a toggle, but not as default behavior.

Don't seem much value to this, NAB so -> Enhancement at best if some UX driven
need to pursue.</pre>
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