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<body><span class="vcard"><a class="email" href="mailto:philipz85@hotmail.com" title="Yousuf Philips (jay) <philipz85@hotmail.com>"> <span class="fn">Yousuf Philips (jay)</span></a>
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title="UNCONFIRMED - UI: Menu 'Insert > Page Number' is wrong: superfluous, error prone, and consumes precious space"
href="https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=113246">bug 113246</a>
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<td>cno@nouenoff.nl, libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org
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<td>philipz85@hotmail.com, tietze.heiko@gmail.com, vstuart.foote@utsa.edu
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<b><a class="bz_bug_link
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title="UNCONFIRMED - UI: Menu 'Insert > Page Number' is wrong: superfluous, error prone, and consumes precious space"
href="https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=113246#c3">Comment # 3</a>
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title="UNCONFIRMED - UI: Menu 'Insert > Page Number' is wrong: superfluous, error prone, and consumes precious space"
href="https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=113246">bug 113246</a>
from <span class="vcard"><a class="email" href="mailto:philipz85@hotmail.com" title="Yousuf Philips (jay) <philipz85@hotmail.com>"> <span class="fn">Yousuf Philips (jay)</span></a>
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<pre>(In reply to Cor Nouws from <a href="show_bug.cgi?id=113246#c0">comment #0</a>)
<span class="quote">> UI: Menu Insert Page Number is wrong.
> - superfluous: it is in the submenu</span >
1. This assume users know that a page number is a field, which users like
Benjamin won't.
2. It is the most used type of field from the fields submenu, so having it in
the root menu is beneficial. we do the same for Image (media submenu) and Chart
(object submenu)
3. Found in this root menu in competing word processors (WPS, Word 2003, iWork
iPages)
<span class="quote">> - error prone: finding this field should not be too easy; use without
> preceding step to insert header/footer, make it behave wrong</span >
1. highly used features shouldnt be hard to find in the menus
2. it is hoped that we can make the entry into a submenu which will do all the
bells and whistles (<a class="bz_bug_link
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title="NEW - MENU: Easily insert page number into header/footer"
href="show_bug.cgi?id=86630">bug 86630</a>)
<span class="quote">> - consumes precious space - needs no explanation.</span >
1. due to space, i moved hyperlink, bookmark and cross-reference into a single
submenu and we eventually moved all of them back into the root menu on your
recommendation
2. there are alot of things that can be inserted into a document, unlike in a
spreadsheet or presentation, and we have to be selective on what goes into
submenus based on usage
<span class="quote">> In case there comes a full swing function (see issue #..) for page numbers,
> that place is of course more than justified. For now. it should be simple
> removed.</span >
You had suggested the same remove in <a class="bz_bug_link
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title="ASSIGNED - [META] Reorganization of the menu bar for Writer"
href="show_bug.cgi?id=91781#c103">bug 91781 comment 103</a> and the same
discussion was had there, so for me this is a WONTFIX.</pre>
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[<a class="bz_bug_link
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title="NEW - [META] Page number field bugs and enhancements"
href="https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=108746">Bug 108746</a>] [META] Page number field bugs and enhancements
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