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   title="UNCONFIRMED - Make Select text by clicking in Margins MSO compliant"
   href="https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=113932">bug 113932</a>
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            <b><a class="bz_bug_link 
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   title="UNCONFIRMED - Make Select text by clicking in Margins MSO compliant"
   href="https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=113932#c4">Comment # 4</a>
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   title="UNCONFIRMED - Make Select text by clicking in Margins MSO compliant"
   href="https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=113932">bug 113932</a>
              from <span class="vcard"><a class="email" href="mailto:vstuart.foote@utsa.edu" title="V Stuart Foote <vstuart.foote@utsa.edu>"> <span class="fn">V Stuart Foote</span></a>
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        <pre>(In reply to Magalaan from <a href="show_bug.cgi?id=113932#c3">comment #3</a>)
<span class="quote">> If you do not appreciate me making suggestions, please say so, and I will
> stop bothering.</span >

If you find it a bother, then don't. But suggestions of UX improvements are
welcome and appreciated if presented in context mindful of development efforts.

As I indicated in <a href="show_bug.cgi?id=113932#c2">comment 2</a>, we already provide a functional implementation
that meets user needs. We are not "obliged" to provide the same UI that MS
implements for their products.

The implementation issue is that there is no linkage between the paragraph
object, table object or frame and the page "margin" on which it sits. 
Presently, one does not click in the margin--but rather clicks in the border of
the object (the "arrow" that appears when over the "target") to have some
effect on the object. Positionally clicking in the page margin would require
new development to link to the attributes of the target object. 

It has some merit, but would equally result in complaints of spurious
selection. I am not convinced it would provide improved UX sufficient to
justify the dev effort. But I'll defer to fellow UX team members.</pre>
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