<html> <head> <base href="https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/"> </head> <body><a class="email" href="mailto:philipz85@hotmail.com" title="Yousuf Philips (jay) (retired) <philipz85@hotmail.com>"> Yousuf Philips (jay) (retired)</a> changed <a class="bz_bug_link bz_status_NEW " title="NEW - Menubar: writer menubar update" href="https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=118217">bug 118217</a> <table border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="8"> <tr> <th>What</th> <th>Removed</th> <th>Added</th> </tr> <tr> <td style="text-align:right;">Resolution</td> <td>WONTFIX </td> <td>--- </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="text-align:right;">Status</td> <td>RESOLVED </td> <td>NEW </td> </tr></table> <div> <a class="bz_bug_link bz_status_NEW " title="NEW - Menubar: writer menubar update" href="https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=118217#c11">Comment # 11</a> on <a class="bz_bug_link bz_status_NEW " title="NEW - Menubar: writer menubar update" href="https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=118217">bug 118217</a> from <a class="email" href="mailto:philipz85@hotmail.com" title="Yousuf Philips (jay) (retired) <philipz85@hotmail.com>"> Yousuf Philips (jay) (retired)</a> <pre>(In reply to Thomas Lendo from <a href="show_bug.cgi?id=118217#c2">comment #2</a>) > ... They were discussed in detail and based (sometimes) on use statistics. It was primarily based on usage statistics, so not sure where you are getting 'sometimes' from. "Besides the HIG, the modifications are based on the user metric statistics done by OpenOffice, analysis of a number of competing office suites, reading user feedback, and watching user videos." - <a href="https://design.blog.documentfoundation.org/2016/01/22/way-down-in-the-libreoffice-menus/">https://design.blog.documentfoundation.org/2016/01/22/way-down-in-the-libreoffice-menus/</a> Here are my thoughts to Andreas's changes. (In reply to andreas_k from <a href="show_bug.cgi?id=118217#c3">comment #3</a>) > Edit > ---- > - Separator between Past and Select -1 as selection is part of the copy/cut/paste functionality and wouldnt work to have a single entry in the select group in impress and draw > - Select options grouped like in calc +1 if it were named 'Select Options' > - Design Mode is in Forms and should be removed +1 > - Exchange Database moved to tools cause there are ALL "database" items +1 as heiko suggested the same thing - <a class="bz_bug_link bz_status_ASSIGNED " title="ASSIGNED - [META] Reorganization of the menu bar for Writer" href="show_bug.cgi?id=91781#c18">https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=91781#c18</a> > View > ---- > - 3rd section are the show additional stuff like Formatting Marks, > Whitespace and Grid What are the similarities in this group that cause it to be separate from the others? > - 4rd section are alternative views -1 this group was an others group of less used (aka advanced) commands that could be joined with the 3rd group. > - Data Sources -> Tools as all Database stuff -1 as this option changes the view area, just like sidebar > Insert > ------ > - horizontal Line moved to Shape Submenu -1 this isnt a shape its a paragraph style > - Section and Text from File move more to bottom (Section fit's good with > signature cause you can lock sections) > - Text from File I don't know in which group -1 they were previously at the bottom with envelope, but separate them in 6.1 as there will be a number of new less important insert functions added to the bottom and also based on Sophie's previous recommendation of their importance > Format > ------ > - Chapter Numbering was added cause it fit's with Character, Paragraph, ... > Property -1 > - Caption was moved from insert to the Image, Shape, Object group cause > Caption is exactly for them. -1 as duplication of a single entry isnt useful > - Name and Description I don't know where to move them, I don't know why > this should be that useful in writer should be somewhere in a subgroup -1 these are accessibility commands > - as Format is the largest new section (same size than insert in the old > layout) I would prefer to combine Flip and Rotate -1 left separate as they are separate in Impress and Draw > Review > ------ > - Complete new Main Section > - Review yourself with Spelling > - AutoText > - Track Changes > - Comments (the names should be more clear for the different commands, also > in 6.0) > - Global Document review > - Protect -1 as maintaining the location of these commands to be in a similar position with other main menu apps of competing apps is important. also HIG recommends not having more than 10 main menu items, and we are already at 11. > Table > ----- > - For Number Format the Submenu (from calc) was added incl. Number > Recognition cause Number Recognition is related to Number Format and not > that important to have it on main level +1 though number recognition likely needs to be renamed as it didnt mean what i thought it meant - <a href="https://help.libreoffice.org/latest/en-US/text/swriter/guide/number_date_conv.html?DbPAR=WRITER#bm_id3156383">https://help.libreoffice.org/latest/en-US/text/swriter/guide/number_date_conv.html?DbPAR=WRITER#bm_id3156383</a> > Form > ---- > - No Change > - If someone say with Review there are to much main menus, I think review is > more important than form Review is definitely not more important that Form, as many users use writer to exclusively make forms. > Tools > ----- > - Line Numbering in View -1 as its a configuration dialog and not a toggle button as all other entries in View menu are</pre> </div> <hr> You are receiving this mail because: <ul> <li>You are the assignee for the bug.</li> </ul> </body> </html>