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<body><span class="vcard"><a class="email" href="mailto:tietze.heiko@gmail.com" title="Heiko Tietze <tietze.heiko@gmail.com>"> <span class="fn">Heiko Tietze</span></a>
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title="NEW - CTL formatting applies even when CTL checkbox is unchecked"
href="https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104318">bug 104318</a>
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<b><a class="bz_bug_link
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title="NEW - CTL formatting applies even when CTL checkbox is unchecked"
href="https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104318#c25">Comment # 25</a>
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title="NEW - CTL formatting applies even when CTL checkbox is unchecked"
href="https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104318">bug 104318</a>
from <span class="vcard"><a class="email" href="mailto:tietze.heiko@gmail.com" title="Heiko Tietze <tietze.heiko@gmail.com>"> <span class="fn">Heiko Tietze</span></a>
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<pre>We discussed the topic in the design meeting. The recommendation is to remove
language dependent font families from tools > options at language as well as
the modules. The default setting should be defined in
officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/VCL.xcu or
i18npool/source/localedata/data/* (l10n may be interested in supporting the
default definition) with the usual way to override per styles: default (or
below in the hierarchy). The same workflow should work for paragraphs with a
different language.
Dev should consider side-effects such as search for kashida, which was only
working when CTL was enabled (<a class="bz_bug_link
bz_status_VERIFIED bz_closed"
title="VERIFIED FIXED - Find & Replace diacritic-sensitive searches are always linked to the CTL language setting and search replace fails when no CTL default is checked active"
href="show_bug.cgi?id=116242">bug 116242</a>).
>From the minutes:
+ e.g. in tabs with Tools > Options > Language Settings > Default on top
+ remove “For the current document only”
+ drawback: displaces language settings (locale = english) and font settings
(default = english)
+ how to deal with the character dialog? (Tomaz)
+ consequently we have to show all types at every time (Heiko)
+ could do that similar to fill styles (color, gradient, pattern...)
+ all types are needed in parallel so switching is bad (Tomaz)
+ flatten out "languages" needed/wanted (Stuart)
+ how to assign a default font to headings/text depending on locales
+ maybe add it to
<a href="https://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/core/officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/VCL.xcu">https://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/core/officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/VCL.xcu</a>
or in files below
<a href="https://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/core/i18npool/source/localedata/data/">https://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/core/i18npool/source/localedata/data/</a>
+ see also tdf#112879
+ take defaults from this/these files (remove tools > options > language
settings > languages: default languages)
=> remove also _all_ tools > options > writer > basic fonts (*) and let the
user set-up defaults per styles: default
+ in multi-language documents/workflows the user is supposed to create
paragraph styles with specific languages that take their default from the
(non-configurable) defaults and may customize in the paragraph style dialog
+ when removing cjk/ctl dev should take care of spaghetti code similar to
search/kashida sensitive depends in the past on tools > options > languages
on/off ( <a class="bz_bug_link
bz_status_VERIFIED bz_closed"
title="VERIFIED FIXED - Find & Replace diacritic-sensitive searches are always linked to the CTL language setting and search replace fails when no CTL default is checked active"
href="show_bug.cgi?id=116242">https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116242</a> )</pre>
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