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title="UNCONFIRMED - Terms Used for Formatting Marks are different to the Terms Used in Unicode Standard or Wikipedia"
href="https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=119723">119723</a>
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<th>Summary</th>
<td>Terms Used for Formatting Marks are different to the Terms Used in Unicode Standard or Wikipedia
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<th>Product</th>
<td>LibreOffice
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<th>Version</th>
<td>6.1.0.3 release
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<th>Hardware</th>
<td>All
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<th>OS</th>
<td>Windows (All)
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<th>Status</th>
<td>UNCONFIRMED
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<th>Severity</th>
<td>normal
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<th>Priority</th>
<td>medium
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<th>Component</th>
<td>LibreOffice
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<th>Assignee</th>
<td>libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org
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<th>Reporter</th>
<td>harald.koester@mail.de
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<th>Blocks</th>
<td>102345
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<pre>This bug report is a proceeding of <a class="bz_bug_link
bz_status_NEW "
title="NEW - : Writer: Use of different items for Formatting Marks (Formatierungszeichen) in English and German Localization differ in different places"
href="show_bug.cgi?id=45588">bug 45588</a>. I will close 45588, when this new
bug is confirmed. <a class="bz_bug_link
bz_status_NEW "
title="NEW - Terms of 2 Formatting Marks are different to the Unicode Terms"
href="show_bug.cgi?id=107447">Bug 107447</a> is a subset of this bug. I will mark 107447 as a
duplicate of this bug.
There are 7 different formatting marks which can be inserted by the menu
(Insert > Formatting Mark) in documents. A few of this terms used in that menu
are different to the Unicode Standard.
Unicode: Used in LibreOffice:
No-break space (U+00A0) Non-breaking space (not OK)
Non-breaking hyphen (U+2011) Non-breaking hyphen (OK)
Soft hyphen (U+00AD) Soft hyphen (OK)
Zero width non-joiner (U+200C) No-width optional break* (not OK)
Zero width joiner (U+200D) No-width no break (not OK)
Left-to-right mark (U+200E) Left-to-right mark (OK)
Right-to-left mark (U+200E) Right-to-left mark (OK)
(*) The character “No-width optional break” (U+FEFF) is deprecated in the
Unicode standard.
Expected: Use of Unicode terms. Also in options dialogue (Writer menu: Tools >
Options… > LibreOffice Writer > Formatting Aids) the correct terms should be
used.
Official translations of the Unicode Standard to other languages don't exist.
So there is the problem which terms should be used in localisations of
LibreOffice. I think to use the terms used in the Wikipedia, if they exist
there, is the best solution.
In German these terms are used in the Wikipedia:
Unicode: German:
No-break space (U+00A0) Geschütztes Leerzeichen (OK)
Non-breaking hyphen (U+2011) Geschützter Bindestrich (OK)
Soft hyphen (U+00AD) Weiches Trennzeichen (OK)
Zero width non-joiner (U+200C) Bindehemmer (not OK)
Zero width joiner (U+200D) Breitenloser Verbinder (not OK)
Left-to-right mark (U+200E) Links-nach-rechts-Zeichen (not OK)
Right-to-left mark (U+200E) Rechts-nach-links-Zeichen (not OK)
Expected: For German localisation use of the terms in the Wikipedia in the menu
(Einfügen > Formatierungszeichen).
Also in the Help the Unicode terms respectively the terms in the Wikipedia
should be used. I found the following help pages where the terms are not
correct.
English help:
(1) Page “Inserting Non-breaking Spaces, Hyphens and Soft Hyphens“
<a href="https://help.libreoffice.org/6.1/en-US/text/shared/guide/space_hyphen.html?DbPAR=SHARED#bm_id3155364">https://help.libreoffice.org/6.1/en-US/text/shared/guide/space_hyphen.html?DbPAR=SHARED#bm_id3155364</a>
(2) Page “Formatting Aids”
<a href="https://help.libreoffice.org/6.1/en-US/text/shared/optionen/01040600.html?DbPAR=SHARED#bm_id3144510">https://help.libreoffice.org/6.1/en-US/text/shared/optionen/01040600.html?DbPAR=SHARED#bm_id3144510</a>
(3) Page “Formatting Mark”
<a href="https://help.libreoffice.org/6.1/en-US/text/shared/01/formatting_mark.html?&DbPAR=WRITER&System=WIN">https://help.libreoffice.org/6.1/en-US/text/shared/01/formatting_mark.html?&DbPAR=WRITER&System=WIN</a>
(4) Page “Formatting aids”
<a href="https://help.libreoffice.org/6.1/en-US/text/shared/optionen/01040600.html?&DbPAR=WRITER&System=WIN">https://help.libreoffice.org/6.1/en-US/text/shared/optionen/01040600.html?&DbPAR=WRITER&System=WIN</a>
German help:
Page “Formatierungszeichen”
“<a href="https://help.libreoffice.org/6.1/de/text/shared/01/formatting_mark.html">https://help.libreoffice.org/6.1/de/text/shared/01/formatting_mark.html</a>”</pre>
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<b>Referenced Bugs:</b>
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[<a class="bz_bug_link
bz_status_NEW "
title="NEW - [META] Formatting marks (aka Non-printing characters) bugs and enhancements"
href="https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=102345">Bug 102345</a>] [META] Formatting marks (aka Non-printing characters) bugs and enhancements
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