<html> <head> <base href="https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/"> </head> <body> <div> <a class="bz_bug_link bz_status_RESOLVED bz_closed" title="RESOLVED NOTABUG - Header / Footer should be inserted into margin, not into text body" href="https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33304#c64">Comment # 64</a> on <a class="bz_bug_link bz_status_RESOLVED bz_closed" title="RESOLVED NOTABUG - Header / Footer should be inserted into margin, not into text body" href="https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33304">bug 33304</a> from <a class="email" href="mailto:mikekaganski@hotmail.com" title="Mike Kaganski <mikekaganski@hotmail.com>"> Mike Kaganski</a> <pre>(In reply to Wolfgang Jäger from <a href="show_bug.cgi?id=33304#c63">comment #63</a>) > > 2. I don't understand what is your *position* that you give a rationale > > below ("it does not look FUNNY" ... "I would NOT judge it to be "LOGICAL" > > confuses me). > > > That's hard to understand for me. :-) Oh, it's always a problem when two non-native-English speakers try to express themselves to each other ;-) so I'm also sorry for being stupid there. What I wanted to express is that I didn't understand your position: slightly simplifying, your words "it does not look FUNNY" seemed somewhat defending those who want to change the status quo, while "I would NOT judge it to be "LOGICAL"" seemed to be against that request. So I wanted to understand what your actual position was. Wrt the last part: I believe that the discussion here is mainly about the initial act of inserting headers/footers, as opposed to later modification of its contents (and subsequent change of page body space). These two, being of course connected, are not necessarily have the same psychological expectations. E.g., user could expect page body height to remain unchanged when inserting a default (=1-line) header, when margins are quite large; but it's not true that users would (have reasons to) expect page body to remain intact when they expand header arbitrarily, possibly exceeding remaining margin height. I don't want to say that fixing one aspect of multiple possible issues here is a universally satisfying solution; just that it would cover the most prominent source of misunderstanding. Here I don't tell about changing ODF or something, just about creating a UI to allow the one-time insertion operation to optionally simultaneously decrease margins to keep page body size. Some people here even keep thinking that they are talking about "conformance to standards", without understanding that there's no universal standards here, and e.g. current implementation strictly conforms to ISO ODF standard, which was by the way created with Microsoft participation in the OASIS committee :-).</pre> </div> <hr> You are receiving this mail because: <ul> <li>You are the assignee for the bug.</li> </ul> </body> </html>